• Notifications?

    From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to All on Sunday, February 23, 2020 22:08:07
    Hello All.

    I have MakeNL/2 working quite well with one minor exception. It doesn't seem to
    send notifications on receipt of a Net segment. I have 3 verbs set:

    NOTIFY SELF
    NOTIFY ERRORS
    NOTIFY RECEIPT

    What am I missing here?

    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to mark lewis on Thursday, March 05, 2020 20:01:11
    Hello mark.

    <On 24Feb2020 17:23 mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Re: Notifications? >

    By: Marc Lewis to mark lewis on Mon Feb 24 2020 13:28:29

    MarcL> I believe that this will solve the problem.

    one can only hope ;)

    MarcL> I saw mention of "flavor" in the documentation but no example.
    MarcL> I'm sure that's what was meant.

    yeah, if there is no flavor specified, makenl generates the MSG
    with no special attributes so it would go normal to the destination link... normal would be related to your routing which may be crash, direct, or immediate possibly...

    Okay, I've given it a shot with the additional verbs you suggested. Net result... Zip. Nothing. No receipts or notifications of any kind are generated.
    Perhaps this is an uncorrected bug in the OS/2 edition(?) At least with NLMake it would notify at least of receipt. Other problems with that program (which I
    believe was either a wide beta or a gamma) keep me from going back to it.

    Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Marc Lewis on Friday, March 06, 2020 09:02:44
    Re: RE: Notifications?
    By: Marc Lewis to mark lewis on Thu Mar 05 2020 20:01:11


    MarcL>>> I saw mention of "flavor" in the documentation but no
    MarcL>>> example. I'm sure that's what was meant.

    yeah, if there is no flavor specified, makenl generates the
    MSG with no special attributes so it would go normal to the
    destination link... normal would be related to your routing
    which may be crash, direct, or immediate possibly...

    MarcL> Okay, I've given it a shot with the additional verbs you
    MarcL> suggested. Net result... Zip. Nothing. No receipts or
    MarcL> notifications of any kind are generated. Perhaps this is
    MarcL> an uncorrected bug in the OS/2 edition(?)

    i don't know... what version of makenl are you running? i've self-built 3.5.1 (Linux) here that i built on 2019 Jul 29...

    also, what does your log file say? does it indicate that it is generating the notifications? i forget if there's a log level setting that will show that, though...


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to mark lewis on Friday, March 06, 2020 22:24:11
    Hello mark.

    <On 06Mar2020 09:02 mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding RE: Notifications? >

    [snip]
    MarcL> Okay, I've given it a shot with the additional verbs you
    MarcL> suggested. Net result... Zip. Nothing. No receipts or
    MarcL> notifications of any kind are generated. Perhaps this is
    MarcL> an uncorrected bug in the OS/2 edition(?)

    i don't know... what version of makenl are you running? i've
    self-built 3.5.1 (Linux) here that i built on 2019 Jul 29...

    also, what does your log file say? does it indicate that it is
    generating the notifications? i forget if there's a log level
    setting that will show that, though...

    -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
    - 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] MakeNL 3.5.0 (OS/2 32-bit)
    compiled with Watcom C on May 4 2019 22:04:35
    + 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] MakeNL started
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] notify errors INTL CRASH NOKILLSENT -- Bad message flag -- 'NOKILLSENT'
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] notify receipt INTL CRASH NOKILLSENT -- Bad message flag -- 'NOKILLSENT'
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] notify self INTL NOKILLSENT -
    - Bad message flag -- 'NOKILLSENT'
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] submit 1:229/426 INTL CRASH NOKILLSENT --
    Bad message flag -- 'NOKILLSENT'
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] Error(s) in configuration file
    ? 05-Mar-2020 07:54:47 makenl[2585] MakeNL finished (rc=255) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

    That was fixed by removing the NOKILLSENT verb (obviously.)

    Here's what the relevant portion of the .CTL file looks like (after correction):

    -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

    FORcesubmit 1
    AllowUnPub 1
    MASTER D:\MAKENL2\MASTER ; where master files reside (default - current) UPDATE D:\MAKENL2\RECEIVE ; where to save received files 'till processing MAILfiles D:\MAKENL2\INBOUND ; where mail server places received files BADfiles D:\MAKENL2\FAIL ; optional "waste can" for files with fatal errors OUTPATH D:\MAKENL2\OUTBOUND
    NOTify errors INTL ; notify of errors (CRASH optional) and/or
    NOTify receipt INTL ; use either of these or both with different
    NOTify self INTL ; attributes.
    SUBMIT 1:229/426 INTL ; where you send updates, CRASH and/or HOLD optional NETADDRESS 1:19/0 ; your network address here
    MESSAGES C:\NETMAIL ; path name to mail server's network mail area

    -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

    See anything there that's not right? The only person that gets any kind of notification is me when it receives the updates for 396/ and 387/ that are generated locally by NLMake DOS (but those are simply dumped into the MakeNL RECEIVE directory by NLMake. None of the other Nodes that submit updates by NetMail receive anything at all; not even errors. I'm at a loss...

    Best regards,
    Marc

    ... One thing worse than the idle rich, that's the idle poor.
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Marc Lewis on Saturday, March 07, 2020 07:58:28
    Re: Re: Notifications?
    By: Marc Lewis to mark lewis on Fri Mar 06 2020 22:24:11


    MarcL> See anything there that's not right?

    i don't see anything wrong there... what do your Net lines look like in your Data section? mask your file names, please...

    eg:
    Data Region,18,SE_US_&_Caribbean_(2020/054),AL_FL_GA_MS_NC_SC_TN_PR_DO,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-,300,XA,CM,INA:sestar.synchro.net,IBN,PING
    Files
    Node 0 vvvvvvvv.txt ; node files must precede any network files Net 116 wwwwwwww.txt 1:116/0 ; net 116 segment definition
    Net 123 xxxxxxxx.txt 1:123/0 ; net 123 segment definition
    Net 135 yyyyyyyy.txt 1:135/0 ; net 135 segment definition
    Net 3634 zzzzzzzz.txt 1:3634/0 ; net 3634 segment definition


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to mark lewis on Saturday, March 07, 2020 13:19:35
    Hello mark.

    <On 07Mar2020 07:58 mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Re: Notifications? >

    MarcL> See anything there that's not right?

    i don't see anything wrong there... what do your Net lines look
    like in your Data section? mask your file names, please...

    eg:
    Data
    Region,18,SE_US_&_Caribbean_(2020/054),AL_FL_GA_MS_NC_SC_TN_PR_DO,m ark_lewis,-Unpublished-,300,XA,CM,INA:sestar.synchro.net,IBN,PING
    Files
    Node 0 vvvvvvvv.txt ; node files must precede any
    network files Net 116 wwwwwwww.txt 1:116/0 ; net 116 segment definition Net 123 xxxxxxxx.txt 1:123/0 ; net 123 segment
    definition Net 135 yyyyyyyy.txt 1:135/0 ; net 135 segment
    definition Net 3634 zzzzzzzz.txt 1:3634/0 ; net 3634 segment
    definition

    -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
    ;
    DATA Region,19,TX_AR_OK_LA,Huntsville_AL,Marc_Lewis,1-256-895-4786,33600,CM,XA,V42 ,5,R19_Internet_Gate,AR_LA_OK_TX,UUCP,1-256-895-4786,33600,CM,XA,V34,V42b,GUU ,10,The_Byte_Museum,Wharton_TX,Matt_Bedynek,-Unpublished-,300,INA:ftn.bytemus ,25,Darkages_BBS,Wayne_OK,Randy_Henderson,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:darkage Down,33,The_Thunderbolt_BBS,Little_Rock_AR,Daryl_Stout,-Unpublished-,300,XX,I Down,35,SmokyThing_BBS,San_Antonio_TX,Shannon_Kuchler,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA ,36,LinuxNode,Lindale_TX,Chad_Adams,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO,XA,INA:hub.linuxn ,37,The_ByteXChange_BBS,Lindale_TX,Chad_Adams,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:bbs ,38,CIA_Amiga_BBS,Mayflower_AR,Tim_Grooms,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:ciaamig ,39,Red_Mud_BBS,Oklahoma_City_OK,David_Snyder,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,INA:107 DOWN,40,RealityBytes_BBS,Corpus_Christi_TX,Howard_Beers,-Unpublished-,300,CM, ,50,Razor's_Domain_][,McAllen_TX,Kevin_Nunn,-Unpublished-,300,CM,INA:bbs.razo ,75,The_Black_Knights_BBS,Midland_TX,Mike_Soper,1-432-262-0545,9600,CM,XA,VFC Hold,9999,Region19_New_Test_Node,Anytown_US,New_Sysop,-Unpublished-,300,CM
    ;
    FILES
    Net 106 xxxxxx 106/0 ; Houston TX
    Net 124 xxxxxxxx 124/0 ; Dallas TX
    Net 130 xxxxxxxx 130/0 ; Fort Worth TX
    Net 387 xxxxxx 387/0 ; San Antonio TX
    Net 396 xxxxxx 396/0 ; New Orleans LA
    ;
    -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-


    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Marc Lewis on Saturday, March 07, 2020 14:35:03
    Re: RE: Notifications?
    By: Marc Lewis to mark lewis on Sat Mar 07 2020 13:19:35


    FILES
    Net 106 xxxxxx 106/0 ; Houston TX
    Net 124 xxxxxxxx 124/0 ; Dallas TX
    Net 130 xxxxxxxx 130/0 ; Fort Worth TX
    Net 387 xxxxxx 387/0 ; San Antonio TX
    Net 396 xxxxxx 396/0 ; New Orleans LA

    why don't the above have the zone specified for the response address? ;)

    FILES
    Net 106 xxxxxx 1:106/0 ; Houston TX
    Net 124 xxxxxxxx 1:124/0 ; Dallas TX
    Net 130 xxxxxxxx 1:130/0 ; Fort Worth TX
    Net 387 xxxxxx 1:387/0 ; San Antonio TX
    Net 396 xxxxxx 1:396/0 ; New Orleans LA

    i don't know but that could be the fix for this problem... maybe...


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to mark lewis on Saturday, March 07, 2020 14:12:27
    Hello mark.

    <On 07Mar2020 14:35 mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding RE: Notifications? >


    FILES
    Net 106 xxxxxx 106/0 ; Houston TX
    Net 124 xxxxxxxx 124/0 ; Dallas TX
    Net 130 xxxxxxxx 130/0 ; Fort Worth TX
    Net 387 xxxxxx 387/0 ; San Antonio TX
    Net 396 xxxxxx 396/0 ; New Orleans LA

    why don't the above have the zone specified for the response
    address? ;)

    FILES
    Net 106 xxxxxx 1:106/0 ; Houston TX
    Net 124 xxxxxxxx 1:124/0 ; Dallas TX
    Net 130 xxxxxxxx 1:130/0 ; Fort Worth TX
    Net 387 xxxxxx 1:387/0 ; San Antonio TX
    Net 396 xxxxxx 1:396/0 ; New Orleans LA

    i don't know but that could be the fix for this problem... maybe...

    Hmmmm.... Never considered that. That's the format that section was in when I "inherited" the RC posiiton quite a few years back. I'll edit the control file
    right now.

    Thanks!

    Best regards,
    Marc

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