• msg XXX replies count for msg...

    From Ruslan Suleimanov@2:467/888 to All on Monday, July 27, 2020 23:02:32
    Hi, All!



    Today in my hpt.log i look these errors:


    ---------- Mon 27 Jul 20, hpt/fbsd 1.9.0-cur 2019-12-05
    1 22:44:54 Start
    3 22:44:54 Using importlogfile -> linking only listed Areas
    3 22:44:54 Linking area ALT.USAGE.ENGLISH
    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 2359: replies count for msg 1891 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 2369: replies count for msg 1891 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4220: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4251: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4592: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4594: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4632: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4715: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 7705: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 20021: replies count for msg 18191 exceeds 9, rest of the replies won't be linked
    ...
    ...
    3 22:44:54 Linking area su.pol

    also these errors:

    3 22:44:55 Linking area FDN_ANNOUNCE
    B 22:44:55 msg 354 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 647 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 867 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1342 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1343 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1344 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1345 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1346 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1347 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1348 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1349 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    3 22:44:55 Linking area ALT.RUSSIAN.Z1
    B 22:44:55 msg 7454: replies count for msg 6789 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:55 msg 7496: replies count for msg 6789 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    ...

    How to fix it ?




    WBR, Ruslan Suleimanov.
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ruslan Suleimanov on Monday, July 27, 2020 14:11:05
    Hello Ruslan,

    Today in my hpt.log i look these errors:


    ---------- Mon 27 Jul 20, hpt/fbsd 1.9.0-cur 2019-12-05
    1 22:44:54 Start
    3 22:44:54 Using importlogfile -> linking only listed Areas
    3 22:44:54 Linking area ALT.USAGE.ENGLISH
    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the replies won't be linked

    This is the way the squish message base was designed. At the time Squish was implemented it was thought to be enough. Maybe it is or isn't, I'm not sure. The squish message base would need to be updated to get more than 9 replies linked.

    also these errors:

    3 22:44:55 Linking area FDN_ANNOUNCE
    B 22:44:55 msg 354 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 647 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 867 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1342 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1343 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1344 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1345 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1346 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1347 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1348 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    B 22:44:55 msg 1349 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible
    3 22:44:55 Linking area ALT.RUSSIAN.Z1

    How to fix it ?

    HPT only uses msgid to link messages? That is the best method of reply linking although you can use the subject also. Likely no linking is going to be needed in FDN_ANNOUNCE anyway.. but...

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Ruslan Suleimanov on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:22:32
    Hello Ruslan!

    27 Jul 20, Ruslan Suleimanov wrote to All:

    Today in my hpt.log i look these errors:

    3 22:44:54 Linking area ALT.USAGE.ENGLISH
    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the replies won't be linked

    How to fix it ?

    What is the ALT.* echoarea structure? Is that the similar internet usegroup which is found by search engines with 72000 threads and 2.000.000 posts?

    If yes, then use the correct tools.

    A newsgroup is designed according to RFC specifications and based on rfc tools.
    Fidonet is designed with the Fidonet Technology Standard and based on FTS tools
    like the husky suite. The FTS is a dinosaur that was created when the transferspeed was between 300 bit/s and 56kb/s and they had 8 bit computers like the C64 with 64kb RAM. Today we have 64bit computers at home and the first
    1000 Mb/s connections are available and affordable for home users.

    Speaking in pictures: You are trying to transport 1000 tons with a Lada Riva at
    once. That does not work and it's not the fault of the Riva.


    If you would like to have clear log files this may help:

    #!/bin/sh
    sed -e /" has no control information: thrown from reply chain"/D hpt.log > 10 sed -e /" replying is not possible"/D 10 > 20
    sed -e /" replies count for msg"/D 20 > 30
    mv 30 hpt.log.`date +%y%m%d.%M`
    rm 10
    rm 20



    Regards

    Kai

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Ruslan Suleimanov on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:01:30
    Re: msg XXX replies count for msg...
    By: Ruslan Suleimanov to All on Mon Jul 27 2020 23:02:32


    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked

    i would guess that this is a SQUish area... 9 reply links is one of the limits it carries...

    B 22:44:55 msg 1346 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible

    i think that "replying is not possible" is an incorrect error report... the message in question is replyable just not linkable using only MSGID... i have no idea what it should be replaced with...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kai Richter on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:03:12
    Re: msg XXX replies count for msg...
    By: Kai Richter to Ruslan Suleimanov on Tue Jul 28 2020 12:22:32


    The FTS is a dinosaur that was created [...]

    so is usenet news ;)


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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to mark lewis on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:17:48
    Hello mark!

    28 Jul 20, mark lewis wrote to Ruslan Suleimanov:

    B 22:44:55 msg 1346 hasn't got any MSGID, replying is not possible

    i think that "replying is not possible" is an incorrect error
    report... the message in question is replyable just not linkable using only MSGID... i have no idea what it should be replaced with...

    replylinking is not possible

    Depends on the linker configuration and is a valid error report if the config is set to link via MSGID only.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Ruslan Suleimanov@2:467/888 to Kai Richter on Thursday, July 30, 2020 15:16:20
    Hi, Kai!

    Ответ на сообщение Kai Richter (2:240/77) к Ruslan Suleimanov, написанное 28 июл 20 в 12:22:

    Hello Ruslan!

    27 Jul 20, Ruslan Suleimanov wrote to All:

    Today in my hpt.log i look these errors:

    3 22:44:54 Linking area ALT.USAGE.ENGLISH
    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of
    the replies won't be linked

    How to fix it ?

    What is the ALT.* echoarea structure? Is that the similar internet usegroup which is found by search engines with 72000 threads and
    2.000.000 posts?

    If yes, then use the correct tools.

    A newsgroup is designed according to RFC specifications and based on
    rfc tools. Fidonet is designed with the Fidonet Technology Standard
    and based on FTS tools like the husky suite. The FTS is a dinosaur
    that was created when the transferspeed was between 300 bit/s and
    56kb/s and they had 8 bit computers like the C64 with 64kb RAM. Today
    we have 64bit computers at home and the first 1000 Mb/s connections
    are available and affordable for home users.

    Speaking in pictures: You are trying to transport 1000 tons with a
    Lada Riva at once. That does not work and it's not the fault of the
    Riva.


    If you would like to have clear log files this may help:

    #!/bin/sh
    sed -e /" has no control information: thrown from reply chain"/D
    hpt.log > 10 sed -e /" replying is not possible"/D 10 > 20 sed -e /" replies count for msg"/D 20 > 30 mv 30 hpt.log.`date +%y%m%d.%M` rm 10
    rm 20

    I try this script and only on 6% reduced my log.. :( I thinks i have more then 72000 threads but not more then 2000000 posts, i sure!
    I try change databases of ECHOS from SQUID to JAM.
    Thanks.




    WBR, Ruslan Suleimanov.
    Telegram: @rsuleimanov
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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Ruslan Suleimanov on Thursday, July 30, 2020 15:01:48
    Hello Ruslan!

    30 Jul 20, Ruslan Suleimanov wrote to Kai Richter:

    If you would like to have clear log files this may help:

    sed -e /" replying is not possible"/D hpt.log > 10

    I try this script and only on 6% reduced my log.. :(

    There are more "acceptable" lines that could be deleted. Just expand the script
    to your needs. Last year i got ~180MB hpt.log and after clearing i stored ~5MB to the archive. But i still have no idea why or what for i do that.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Ruslan Suleimanov on Thursday, July 30, 2020 20:15:38
    Hi, Ruslan!

    27 июл 20 23:02, Ruslan Suleimanov -> All:

    Today in my hpt.log i look these errors:


    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the replies won't be linked

    [...skipped...]

    How to fix it ?

    Use JAM instead squish. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Stas Mishchenkov on Friday, July 31, 2020 23:03:10
    Hello Stas!

    30 Jul 2020 20:15, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Ruslan Suleimanov:

    How to fix it ?
    Use JAM instead squish. ;)

    or opus ( * msgs base * )


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Saturday, August 01, 2020 11:23:14
    Hi, Benny!

    31 июл 20 23:03, Benny Pedersen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    How to fix it ?
    Use JAM instead squish. ;)

    or opus ( * msgs base * )

    Opus does not support reply tree. It's better to use for netmail.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- У одних людей, полушария прикрываются костями черепа, у других - штанами.
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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Stas Mishchenkov on Monday, August 03, 2020 22:55:48
    Hello Stas!

    01 Aug 2020 11:23, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    How to fix it ?
    Use JAM instead squish. ;)
    or opus ( * msgs base * )

    Opus does not support reply tree. It's better to use for netmail.

    msg size is bigger possible, since its one file pr msg, and i dont think loosing reply tree is that a big deal ?


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Benny Pedersen on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 09:23:26
    Benny Pedersen wrote:

    B 22:44:54 msg 783: replies count for msg 320 exceeds 9, rest of the replies
    won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 2359: replies count for msg 1891 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 2369: replies count for msg 1891 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4220: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4251: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4592: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4594: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4632: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 4715: replies count for msg 4431 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked
    B 22:44:54 msg 7705: replies count for msg 3922 exceeds 9, rest of the
    replies won't be linked

    .....


    and i dont think loosing reply tree is that a big deal ?


    And guess what was the original problem?

    'Tommi

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 11:18:16
    Hi Benny!

    Monday August 03 2020 22:55, you wrote to me:

    How to fix it ?
    Use JAM instead squish. ;)
    or opus ( * msgs base * )

    Opus does not support reply tree. It's better to use for netmail.

    msg size is bigger possible, since its one file pr msg, and i dont think loosing reply tree is that a big deal ?

    Did you realy try to read 2 Gb sized message? I can sednd one for you. ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 11:22:12
    Hi Benny!

    Monday August 03 2020 22:55, you wrote to me:

    How to fix it ?
    Use JAM instead squish. ;)
    or opus ( * msgs base * )

    Opus does not support reply tree. It's better to use for netmail.

    msg size is bigger possible, since its one file pr msg, and i dont think loosing reply tree is that a big deal ?

    Did you realy try to read 2 Gb sized message? I can send one for you. ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tommi Koivula on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 19:35:48
    Hello Tommi!

    04 Aug 2020 09:23, Tommi Koivula wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    And guess what was the original problem?

    more bodka ? :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 19:36:24
    Hello Stas!

    04 Aug 2020 11:18, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Did you realy try to read 2 Gb sized message? I can sednd one for you.
    ;)

    why support so many msg storages when only one is needed ?

    for email default size is just 10MB over that postfix reject it, remember when some windows programs maked multiple emails that needed to be collected and assembled in order to get the uuencoded binaries back ?

    time have learned this was in the long run more usable for usenet


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.7.10-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)