• Loser

    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Thursday, May 21, 2020 21:08:44
    Hello Everybody,

    The World's Biggest Loser is -

    A one-term president, never gaining the support of a majority
    of voters in his last election, projected to lose big in the next
    election. With poll numbers collapsing this early, it is becoming
    questionable if he will even win the state of Utah ...

    TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

    Source: CNN

    The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political
    asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

    Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
    is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful
    economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.

    The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic
    defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by
    Oxford Economics predicted.

    Read more:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/business/economy-election-trump-biden -jobs/index.html

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:59:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-

    TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

    Source: CNN

    Ah, so in other words, Fake News.

    The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

    Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
    is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful
    economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.

    Unemployment mainly caused by DEMOCRAT Governors (like our VP wannabee here in Michigan) who keeps the state locked down based on NO science and questionable legality.

    Yes, this will be remembered come election day. You can bet on that.

    The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic
    defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by Oxford Economics predicted.

    *Laugh* In related news, the "RNC maintains massive fundraising edge over DNC". (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/04/rnc-maintains-massive-fundraising-edge-over-dnc/)

    Polls are useless. Where people spend their money tells a far truer story. Of course, compared to CNN, news from any other source is truer.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Ron Lauzon on Sunday, May 24, 2020 00:46:01
    Hello Ron,

    TRUMP - THE BIGGEST LOSER

    Source: CNN

    Ah, so in other words, Fake News.

    Even Fox News is reporting the same thing as CNN.

    The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political >LL>asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

    Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending
    is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful >LL>economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking >LL>reelection.

    Unemployment mainly caused by DEMOCRAT Governors (like our VP wannabee here
    in Michigan) who keeps the state locked down based on NO science and questionable legality.

    Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the
    governor of a state might be.

    Yes, this will be remembered come election day. You can bet on that.

    Let's not forget about those who vote absentee, and by mail.

    The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic >LL>defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by >LL>Oxford Economics predicted.

    *Laugh* In related news, the "RNC maintains massive fundraising edge over >DNC".
    (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/04/rnc-maintains-massive-fundraising-edge-over-dnc/)


    Oh, I have no doubt the Republican Party would love to buy (or steal)
    the election. And their favored candidate would love to rig the results
    so that only he can "win".

    Polls are useless.

    Maybe that's his plan. Kill off as many people through COVID-19,
    and then "postpone" the election indefinitely. That would work,
    wouldn't it? So many people, willing to die for him ...

    Where people spend their money tells a far truer story.

    What money? They'll either all be dead, or unemployed.

    Of course, compared to CNN, news from any other source is truer.

    Oxford Economics is in England. Doesn't have a bone to pick with
    Trump, or any other US politician.

    --Lee

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, May 23, 2020 08:36:34
    Am 22 May 20 15:10:58 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Loser>

    Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.
    Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
    George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
    George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
    Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

    Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

    Did Bush even run for a third term?
    Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
    Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during WWII.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Monday, May 25, 2020 04:39:50
    Hello Gerhard,

    Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.
    Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
    George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
    George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
    Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

    Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

    Good always comes after bad.
    Except when it doesn't.
    Such as when things go from bad to worse ...

    Did Bush even run for a third term?

    The first Bush never made it to a second term. The second Bush
    was never allowed to even try to make it to a third term. Not that
    it mattered, since he would not have been able to win anyway.

    note: the 22nd amendment limits a president to serving two
    consecutive terms.

    Licoln got re-elected during civil war.

    And was shot dead shortly into his second term.
    The assassin, John Wilkes Booth, escaped to Mexico.
    A few years ago, a judge ordered the body of John
    Wilkes Booth to be exhumed (he was thought to have
    been buried in the northeast part of the US). But
    when the gravesite was opened, there was no body.
    What happened to the body? It was stolen.

    The same thing happened to Benito Mussolini.
    So body snatching is not a new thing, and not
    just among Americans. Italians do it too.

    Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during WWII.

    Roosevelt died in office shortly after winning his fourth term,
    supposedly of a stroke. The entire nation was in shock, as everybody
    had thought he was in perfect health. Some conspiracy theorists
    suggest that FDR was poisoned by Winston Churchill, but no proof
    or evidence seems to be available for analysis ...

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gerhard Strangar on Monday, May 25, 2020 01:58:04
    On 05-23-20 08:36, Gerhard Strangar <=-
    spoke to Lee Lofaso about Loser <=-


    Am 22 May 20 15:10:58 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum
    Thema <Loser>

    Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.
    Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
    George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
    George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
    Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

    Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

    Did Bush even run for a third term?

    Not allowed these days.

    Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
    Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during
    WWII.

    Bad times => not reelected.
    War times => yes reelected.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 02:47:19
    Hello Dale,

    Acutally, bad times cause voters to keep the current goverment.
    Herbert Hoover gave us FDR.
    George H.W. Bush gave us Bill Clinton.
    George W. Bush gave us Barack Obama.
    Donald J. Trump will give us Joe Biden.

    Seems like you had a lot of bad times. :-)

    Did Bush even run for a third term?

    Not allowed these days.

    At the end of his second term in office, President Obama made
    some comments to the news media about this subject. As a former
    constitutional law professor, and a sitting president, he knew
    quite a bit about the US Constitution and the 22nd Amendment.

    According to Obama, if he would run for a third term he would win.
    It would not matter what the US Constitution or the 22nd Amendment
    said, because the courts (including the USSC) would not go against
    the will of the people. IOW, if the people voted for him, there
    would be no ruling against him from taking office for a third term.

    This was just an academic exercize, as Obama had no actual plans
    to run for a third consecutive term. He was just toying with the news
    media, kind of like what trolls do in message boards.

    Of course, Barack Obama is free to be elected vice president ...
    and then assume the duties of being president later on.

    Licoln got re-elected during civil war.
    Roosevelt was on a fourth term after the great depression and during >GS>WWII.

    Bad times => not reelected.
    War times => yes reelected.

    Donald Trump has declared himself as being a "wartime president".
    Problem is, the pandemic is winning. With no end in sight.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 09:11:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Even Fox News is reporting the same thing as CNN.

    You are making the usual Leftie assumption that the only news is the news you get from the Media. CNN and Fox are the same: Media. They care first and foremost about eyeballs, not facts. Fox just decided to differentiate themselves by not following the Leftie Narrative. Neither CNN or Fox are particularily trustworthy - but Fox hasn't been caught lieing nearly as much as CNN.

    Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the
    governor of a state might be.

    Leftie redirection again. Unemployment is HIGHER in those states controlled by a Tyrant... er.. Democrat governor.

    Oh, I have no doubt the Republican Party would love to buy (or steal)
    the election. And their favored candidate would love to rig the results
    so that only he can "win".

    *sigh* I see you still aren't taking your medication for TDS.

    What money? They'll either all be dead, or unemployed.

    I see that you completely missed (well, that's not true, you probably just chose to ignore) my information on DNC vs. RNC funding. Where people put their money is a far truer indicator of who they SAY they will vote for.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Thursday, May 28, 2020 04:40:33
    On 27 May 2020 at 09:11a, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

    You are making the usual Leftie assumption that the only news is the
    news you get from the Media. CNN and Fox are the same: Media. They
    care first and foremost about eyeballs, not facts. Fox just decided to differentiate themselves by not following the Leftie Narrative. Neither CNN or Fox are particularily trustworthy - but Fox hasn't been caught lieing nearly as much as CNN.

    Haha. Verifiable lies on Fox are double-digit percentage
    points higher than on CNN. https://www.politifact.com/article/2015/jan/27/msnbc-fox-cnn-move-needle-our-tr uth-o-meter-scorec/

    Unemployment is high everywhere, regardless of what party the governor of a state might be.

    Leftie redirection again. Unemployment is HIGHER in those states controlled by a Tyrant... er.. Democrat governor.

    Not true, or at least misleading. Red state economies
    are almost universally worse-off than their Blue state
    counterparts. While unemployment may be higher in some
    Blue states, in general people in red states are
    underemployed and almost enjoy more economic support
    from the federal government. Put another way, the
    blue states subsidize the red states.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron Lauzon on Thursday, May 28, 2020 00:24:00
    On 05-27-20 09:11, Ron Lauzon <=-
    spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Loser <=-

    I see that you completely missed (well, that's not true, you probably
    just chose to ignore) my information on DNC vs. RNC funding.
    Where people put their
    money is a far truer indicator of who they SAY they will vote for.

    What you are missing is data on *WHO* is contributing to the DNC and the
    RNC. Much of the RNC money comes from big super pacs and billionaires
    who hope to elect a party that will help pad their coffers. I would
    speculate that if you looked at the number of contributors, you might
    find that the Republicans are out numbered.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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