• Democrat Campaign Events

    From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to All on Thursday, April 09, 2020 16:19:24
    These are ALL Democrat Campagin Events:

    1) Everything on liberal news stations
    2) Trick questions that get asked to Trump each day
    3) Joe Biden's "Dueling briefings" <- what ever happened to them?
    4) Late Shows
    5) Broadcast TV's ignoring or Trump's daily briefings

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, April 09, 2020 22:45:25
    On 09 Apr 20 16:19:24, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    These are ALL Democrat Campagin Events:

    I believe Trump will be re-elected because Biden is... Biden. But I do not believe it will be the landslide-slaughter some conservative sites think so.

    However it would not surprise me if Hillary made her sudden return. Bernie's exit just seemed to be too "convenient". Not that she will swing things but it will definately cheapen the US election even further. Once again Bernie fans got the shaft and it just stinks of corruption.

    I really wish Trump would just buckle-down and stop grandstanding in some ways. He made a serious gaffe with handling China thats gonna cost him votes.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Friday, April 10, 2020 08:14:29
    On 09 Apr 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    However it would not surprise me if Hillary made her sudden return. Bernie's exit just seemed to be too "convenient". Not that she will
    swing things but it will definately cheapen the US election even
    further. Once again Bernie fans got the shaft and it just stinks of corruption.

    Bernie also said that he is not giving up his delegates and he went to say he hopes to get more.


    I really wish Trump would just buckle-down and stop grandstanding in
    some ways. He made a serious gaffe with handling China thats gonna cost him votes.

    Trump has done far for the American people and has kept more promises than any other President is recent memory.

    I am sure that the reporters would like to continue to twist and take out of context what the President says. Just as I am sure that they would like to
    have the President remain unaffected when they ask their questions filled with sarcastic sounding tones & even some of those are of the "gotcha" type.
    I love it when the President replies to these smug people, how he demonstrates his authority & sometimes devastates them w/ his reply, as he instantly defines the true intention of why this questions were asked.

    This President is a fighter, this is why the American people love about the man, and it also drives the liberals nuts, in every form of medium, including here in fidonet.


    The President is right about China, they have been ripping off the United States for many years. He was also right about China, when he said that they tried to hide it (Covid-19) from the world.

    The President was also right about the World Health Organization bowing to the Chinese. The United States has paid the majority of the money to the W.H.O. It's time to shut off the money and begin a investigation into the matter.

    The President also got it right when he called out the W.H.O. when they said that COVID-19 couldn't be spread to person to person.
    They also disagreed with his travel ban, of which has saved many lives.
    Many countries have done the same thing, even some states here in the U.S.
    are disallowing people of other states.

    This is going to cost him votes?..
    nonsense.
    As a result of this stance on China, it will garner him more votes.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Friday, April 10, 2020 12:21:16
    On 10 Apr 20 08:14:29, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

    I really wish Trump would just buckle-down and stop grandstanding in some ways. He made a serious gaffe with handling China thats gonna cos him votes.

    Trump has done far for the American people and has kept more promises than other President is recent memory.

    I have no doubt Trump loves America... he is a good example of using the system to his benefit. That is not an insult, its fact.

    Trump is clearly not an idiot. It takes a certain kind of genius to be able to get elected President. But he does have a bit of self-loathing and narcissism that is the great cause of ridicule and insult by left-wingers and the MSM
    much like Obama's similar traits were cause for right-wing insult.

    I was a huge Trump fan as an observer in your 2016 elections but as the years went on, I saw some cracks forming at the seams. Twitter tirades and things like frequent golfing whilest criticising his predecessor of doing the same. Entertaining that nutjob Kanye West at the whitehouse was poor optics which served no purpose. Just cringeworthy gaffe crap from him I wish would *stop*

    I really want him to be consistent and just fix problems without gloating or grandstanding. If the MSM press is such fake news, he doesn't have to entertain them. As an example there is no need to gloat over Creepy Joe or Sleepy Senile Joe Biden - its unlikely he will be elected. But chances go up the more he insults. I just want him to do his job and then he can be elected on merit alone without grandstanding or whipping up crowds into frenzies.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Friday, April 10, 2020 19:05:01
    On 10 Apr 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    Trump has done far for the American people and has kept more promises other President is recent memory.

    Finally an intelligent a conversation, instead of the seething hate from the Dark Side.

    I was a huge Trump fan as an observer in your 2016 elections but as the years went on, I saw some cracks forming at the seams. Twitter tirades
    and things like frequent golfing whilest criticising his predecessor of doing the same. Entertaining that nutjob Kanye West at the whitehouse
    was poor optics which served no purpose. Just cringeworthy gaffe crap
    from him I wish would *stop*

    Question?
    What do you think would happen if Trump dismissed him Kanye West, how you
    think *that* would of been perceived?

    People would suggest that he hates black people, whether people liked or hated Mr. West or not; they would used him like a pawn & they would run & spin that for ALL that it was worth. If they could use it -- you know they would --
    use it, to Damage the President. I could see it now. CNN would have panels discussing this every night, Van Jones would say see "I told you so." Then
    they would revisit midweek - Wednesday - the darkest days of the civil rights movement. They would discuss and analyze and then mysteriously come to a conclusion at the end of the week. (Propagating and giving special sneak peeks into the show stopper reveal on Friday's worldwide special broadcast that in 2019, Trump has returned the Nation to the hate and violence of the 1960's.

    For those who think that Mr. Trump is of this nature, I would direct you to re-read Donald Trump's Inauguration speech.

    As far as the tweeting is concerned, it's great a tool to get his message directly to the people and to those who despise him, more importantly Twitter allows the President to talk past the these idiots to those American's who really want to read what he is communicating and to those who are interested. After all he is not just bypassing the liberal lunatic fringe but also those in in the media who are sometimes have this reference.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, April 11, 2020 02:04:08
    On 10 Apr 20 19:05:01, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

    Finally an intelligent a conversation, instead of the seething hate from th Dark Side.

    8-) I could technically be considered a "classical liberal".

    I try not to get into lengthly quote-rants when I reply to someone, but:

    What do you think would happen if Trump dismissed him Kanye West, how you think *that* would of been perceived?

    The optics of having a rapper at the white house looks as bad as Obama playing host to Black Lives Matter. Its just pandering. I wish Trump would really break PC culture by calling black people black instead of "African American".

    When Trump campaigned in 2016 I was a huge fan almost for the sole reason that finally America could have a President that won't pander to the PC crowd and hopefully a lot of this culturally-sensitive crap would go away. I saw Trump as the proverbial middle finger to years of establishment pandering.

    Maybe even go a step further by calling out race hustlers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. I really wished Trump was far more aggressive and brutal against the sensitive-snowflake culture that we live in now. A generation of kids are unfortunately growing up with the idea that euphemistic language is normal and that if you do not succeed in life, its due to white privelege.

    Trump should be going after universities that pander "gender studies" and race studies and other nonsense as that is the real dangerous racism and sexism of America. Instead he constantly gets side tracked by the MSM and Twitter BS.

    I would like to see him golf less and instead have more casual interactions with average Americans, maybe even with those that do not like him. That would not be pandering, that would be a genuine effort to relate to voters. I don't know what it is about golf, for me its just a goofy stuck-up snobbish "sport". Golfers are some of the most insufferable uptight A-holes ever on this planet. We should have less golf courses and more public parks, nature, scenery etc.

    As far as the tweeting is concerned, it's great a tool to get his message directly to the people and to those who despise him, more importantly Twitt

    When Trump keeps the Twitter posts calm and simple, thats one thing. Its the childish ranting that is cringeworthy. It comes across as a petulent child having a tantrum... "If you have nothing nice to say about someone, say nothing". Or so it goes.

    It would be a more conservative approach for him. Better yet, directly address the American people via Youtube or some streaming platform and stop with these rediculous press conferences that only perpetuate the gotcha-questions from
    the fake-news media. He claims to despise them yet can't stop addressing.

    Nick

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:33:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    3) Joe Biden's "Dueling briefings" <- what ever happened to them?

    Biden can't concentrate long enough to read the teleprompter for more than 10 minutes. So the events even embarassed the Dems.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Saturday, April 11, 2020 09:28:18
    On 11 Apr 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    The optics of having a rapper at the white house looks as bad as Obama playing host to Black Lives Matter. Its just pandering. I wish Trump
    would really break PC culture by calling black people black instead of "African American".

    There is a problem with Race in this country, and it is on both sides.
    Why you think players in the NFL kneel during the National Anthem? Are they misguided? OR is it that people of color are being mistreated, and therefore the kneeling is a sign of respect for being disrespected or is it because
    they are triggered to do so that that peace can be maintained, so that
    violent riots don't ensue, to where devastating destruction occurs that destroys entire towns, complete with looting; where it turns into giant discount days at the local Wal*Mart.

    When I see this...
    I think to myself that these people are not remotely civilized.

    Things don't always go swimmingly for me sometimes either, but you won't see
    me acting out in this way.

    When Trump campaigned in 2016 I was a huge fan almost for the sole
    reason that finally America could have a President that won't pander to
    the PC crowd and hopefully a lot of this culturally-sensitive crap would
    go away. I saw Trump as the proverbial middle finger to years of establishment pandering.

    Why do you think this was, perhaps it was because it was said that he was not acting Presidential Enough, what does that even mean?
    - be a punching bag take all of the insults & jabs but just remain calm.

    Trump should be going after universities that pander "gender studies"
    and race studies and other nonsense as that is the real dangerous racism and sexism of America.

    I would like to see that also, but I think that will lead to war with the
    left. They need these types of teachings as they are critical in removing all the individuality as they create hundreds of drones who are sufficiently brainwashed and free to spread chaos, not the kind that is seen and obvious, but more of a methodical & benevolent change over time.

    It would be a more conservative approach for him. Better yet, directly address the American people via Youtube or some streaming platform and stop with these rediculous press conferences that only perpetuate the gotcha-questions from the fake-news media. He claims to despise them yet can't stop addressing.

    If he did not then left would say:
    There is not enough information and that there is not enough transparency.

    Kind of Dammed if he does and Dammed if he doesn't.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, April 13, 2020 02:43:15
    On 11 Apr 2020 at 11:16a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Biden is really weak, especially compared to Trump, but he is a cure for Trump Derangement Syndrome. (Poison was the cure?)

    And yet, he's spanking Trump in polls right now as the
    extent of the latter's incompetence becomes clear in the
    current crisis.

    Here's a lesson for you: it's "easy" to be the leader when
    things are going well. You don't have to do much; all you
    have to do is keep the ship pointed in the right direction.
    Trump inherited a booming economy on a growth trajectory,
    and a government in good shape from his predecessor. His
    "pro-business" rhetoric led to market speculation that
    increased stock values; good for 401(k)'s.

    But real leadership is shown in times of crisis. The first
    major problem in his presidency, and he bungled it so badly
    that the illusory gains of the first three-and-a-half years
    were wiped out in two weeks. He continues to bungle. He
    has shown definitively that he is not a leader.

    It doen't smell like "integrity" when they have all of the USA voting in democratic primaries, then tossing the primary winner in the trash for someone who nobody asked for - so you're probably on to something. Those who wish to overturn the 2016 election will probably be glad to overturn the 2020 primary election too.

    The people in the primaries voted for Biden. You may not
    like him; hell, _I_ don't like him (but I'm not a Democrat,
    either), but that's who the people chose.

    The American public, led by the right-wing, have lost the
    ability to think logically and rationally. They mistake the
    loudest people in the room for having the most support;
    hence, claims that the nomination was "stolen" from Bernie
    (who just failed to get the vote) or that Trump has all this
    support (he doesn't have the support of anything approaching
    a majority: just enough in the swing states to win the EC,
    which sadly, is how we elect presidents in the US
    ).

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, April 13, 2020 04:16:25
    On 10 Apr 2020 at 08:14a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    This President is a fighter, this is why the American people love about the man, and it also drives the liberals nuts, in every form of medium, including here in fidonet.

    He wasn't a fighter in Viet Nam.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, April 13, 2020 04:18:26
    On 11 Apr 2020 at 09:28a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    When I see this...
    I think to myself that these people are not remotely civilized.

    But you're not a racist, amirite?

    A whole group of people who only happen to have in
    common the color of their skin are "not remotely
    civilized" because of the actions of a few. Yeah,
    that's actually really racist.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, April 13, 2020 04:18:01
    On 11 Apr 20 09:28:18, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

    There is a problem with Race in this country, and it is on both sides.
    Why you think players in the NFL kneel during the National Anthem? Are they misguided? OR is it that people of color are being mistreated, and therefor

    Black people tend to come from a very proud culture, religion and are actually mostly very conservative. Bad things have happened to them but I think the worst is the pandering by government on both political sides that they are victims of life and circumstance. Universities, the MSM and government fuel anger and victimhood for funding, ratings and votes. This has gone on for years. Black people who become lawyers, doctors, engineers and have really successful careers and families are called sell-outs and Uncle Toms, Yet if
    one is a athlete or a rapper then that is measured as "success" even as they openly abuse drugs or celebrate a thug lifestyle of violence and misogyny.

    Why do you think this was, perhaps it was because it was said that he was n acting Presidential Enough, what does that even mean?

    Both sides really get into pointless namecalling instead of taking the time to really understand why Trump was voted in the first place... it really wasn't so much a Trump voter having a visceral reaction to Obama as it was the media and Clinton and a corrupt party system. Trump is a master of the media and knows exactly what to say and do to get their attention. The media eats it up all the time, good or bad. The media was largely responsible for his win.

    Leftists should channel their anger more at their Democrat system that allowed Clinton to steal the show and now promoting Biden who I'm convinced is senile. It just seems they are tripping over themselves to find someone to "beat Trump" rather than someone who would actually be a genuinely good President.

    And when someone votes for "anyone but Trump", that to me just reeks of ignorance and stupidity. Voting out of revenge or spite? Sure sounds less educated than so-called deplorables who voted for Trump in the first place.

    I wish Trump supporers would actually politely engage leftists and get them
    to usurp their Democrat party and that Trump was voted because he genuinely connected with the average Joe. Clinton on the other hand wrote off "deplorables" and therefore subsequently wrote off her election.

    Nick

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Monday, April 13, 2020 08:25:25
    On 13 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    A whole group of people who only happen to have in
    common the color of their skin are "not remotely
    civilized" because of the actions of a few. Yeah,
    that's actually really racist.

    If the shoe fits....

    Why are more African American's incarcerated then Whites.
    Why did African Americans nearly destroy a southern city? Over another black man of who was a just a thug and a bully.
    Why did the people in Baltimore, MD thousands of pounds of garbage enough to make it look like a city dump?
    Your eagerness to jump in with two feet and call me racist, when you don't
    know me is not smart, then again I look at how you respond to others in here, you come off as an elitist snob, who really does not have a clue how the
    world works.
    You say your not a democrat, but you have a very serious case of TDS.

    Then again, Why are some African American's superstars in the media that have mega empires?
    Mr. Ben Carson who is a friggin brain surgeon, picked, by the President, because he is the best man for job.

    When you paint with a large brush, you miss the point.

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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Nick Andre on Monday, April 13, 2020 06:36:39
    Re: Re: Democrat Campaign Events
    By: Nick Andre to Gregory Deyss on Sat Apr 11 2020 02:04 am

    Trump should be going after universities that pander "gender studies" and race studies and other nonsense as that is the real dangerous racism and sexism of America.

    I can't talk for America, but I agree that a lot of Universitary activities sponsored by political groups nowadays are closer to political despotism than to science.

    Lots of College groups and Professors deserve the same opposition a real Nazi party does, for prety much the same reason.
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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 03:26:52
    On 13 Apr 2020 at 08:25a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    On 13 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    A whole group of people who only happen to have in
    common the color of their skin are "not remotely
    civilized" because of the actions of a few. Yeah,
    that's actually really racist.

    If the shoe fits....

    A single shoe doesn't fit tens of millions of people:
    that's the point

    Why are more African American's incarcerated then Whites.

    Because they're punished far more harshly than whites
    for the same crimes. This is documented fact.

    Because they're forced into inherited cycles of poverty.
    This is documented fact.

    Because they're segregated into ghettos full of poverty
    and despair. This is documented fact.

    Do you _really_ think the playing field is level?

    Why did African Americans nearly destroy a southern city? Over another black man of who was a just a thug and a bully.

    Huh?

    Why did the people in Baltimore, MD thousands of pounds of garbage
    enough to make it look like a city dump?

    That's not even a coherent sentence.

    Your eagerness to jump in with two feet and call me racist, when you
    don't know me is not smart, then again I look at how you respond to
    others in here, you come off as an elitist snob, who really does not
    have a clue how the world works.

    Physician heal thyself. Your statements here prove you are
    a racist. Anyone who reveals the truth to you is an elitist
    snob.

    Well, you come across as a dumb, racist hick who can't apply
    logic or reason to basic problems, who worships an abject
    loser and who hates America and Americans.

    You say your not a democrat, but you have a very serious case of TDS.

    I don't have "TDS": I see the idiot for what he is.

    You have TDS: You refuse to see him for what he is.
    That's derangement.

    Then again, Why are some African American's superstars in the media that have mega empires?

    Because they're good at what they do?

    Mr. Ben Carson who is a friggin brain surgeon, picked, by the President, because he is the best man for job.

    "There are very fine people on both sides."
    Where one side is literally self-avoid nazis.

    But Trump picked a brain surgeon to be secretary
    of housing and urban development, so he must not
    be racist. Even though he has a history of
    being racist going back to the 70s, when he and
    his dad lost in court for discriminatory renting
    practices.

    When you paint with a large brush, you miss the point.

    So says the guy who claims that an entire group, who's
    only universally shared characteristic is the color of
    their skin, is not "remotely civilized."

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Monday, April 13, 2020 18:19:44
    On 14 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    Why are more African American's incarcerated then Whites.

    Because they're punished far more harshly than whites
    for the same crimes. This is documented fact.

    Because they're forced into inherited cycles of poverty.
    This is documented fact.

    Because they're segregated into ghettos full of poverty
    and despair. This is documented fact.

    Then again, Why are some African American's superstars in the media t have mega empires?

    Because they're good at what they do?

    I agree that these folks are good at what they do, but many of them grew up poor. Some worse then poor.

    So now you're contradicting yourself....
    Did you NOT just say?
    that they are punished more harshly then whites.
    that they inherited cycles of poverty.
    that they are in ghettos of poverty and despair.

    You forgot to mention "everything is a white-lash.." so says Van Jones of CNN.

    Who is the racist now? Is this how you see these people?

    I wish everyone could rise to greatness, regardless of skin color.

    You know why so many of them fail? It doesn't have a thing to do w/ the items that you mentioned, in-fact what some of items of which you mentioned are
    the result and not the cause. It all boils down to NOT having a strong family unit. Single moms raising kids, no Dad in the picture, he went off to splash to another. Then the street fills whatever void remains, followed by a culture that does not care.

    It is Responsibility and Commitment that is the problem to a large degree.
    A strong education also provides the pathway out of this misery. or death does. I remain hopeful, that education is chosen when this choice comes.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 20:37:25
    Hello Everybody,

    -=Gregory Deyss wrote to Dan Cross=-

    [..]

    Then again, Why are some African American's superstars in the
    media t have mega empires?

    Because they're good at what they do?

    I agree that these folks are good at what they do, but many of them grew up
    poor. Some worse then poor.

    Larry Bird grew up poor. Pete Maravich grew up poor. Both
    worked hard and became among the greatest basketball players
    of all time. Even though both were white.

    So now you're contradicting yourself....
    Did you NOT just say?
    that they are punished more harshly then whites.
    that they inherited cycles of poverty.
    that they are in ghettos of poverty and despair.

    Black folks are disproportionately poor in relation to white folks
    in this country. Ditto with brown folks and other folks of color.

    You forgot to mention "everything is a white-lash.." so says Van Jones of
    CNN.

    It is our society that is sick, not black folks or brown folks
    or yellow folks ...

    Who is the racist now? Is this how you see these people?

    The state of Louisiana is 32% black. Yet the mortality rate
    for black folks in regards to COVID-19 is 70%. The highest of
    any group. Yes, our society is truly sick.

    I wish everyone could rise to greatness, regardless of skin color.

    Our society has a long way to go to achieve greatness.
    A very long way.

    You know why so many of them fail?

    Our sick society has failed them.

    It doesn't have a thing to do w/ the items that you mentioned, in-fact what
    some of items of which you mentioned are the result and not the cause.

    Like I said, we have a very sick society.

    It all boils down to NOT having a strong family unit.

    We have a hook-up society. And yet black folks have a much higher
    mortality rate for COVID-19 than any other group. That will not change
    if those who are currently hooking up choose to marry. They will still
    be sick, and continue to get sick. Why? Because our entire society
    is sick.

    Single moms raising kids, no Dad in the picture, he went off to splash to
    another.

    That is the majority today, regardless of race. In some cases, it
    is Dad raising kids rather than Mom. Or two Dads and no Mom ...

    Then the street fills whatever void remains, followed by a culture
    that does not care.

    Welcome to the real world.

    It is Responsibility and Commitment that is the problem to a large degree.

    Responsibility and Commitment. To what? Hook-up culture means
    be with the one you're with until you want another to be with.
    COVID-19 merely accelerated things a bit, forcing folks to move
    on to another sooner rather than later.

    A strong education also provides the pathway out of this misery.

    Propaganda.
    Kinda like FoxNews on steroids.
    I wonder what Winston would say to that?

    or death does.

    Everybody dies.
    Quickly, or slowly.
    Not that anybody has a choice.

    I remain hopeful, that education is chosen when this choice comes.

    Suicide is painless.

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Friday, April 17, 2020 07:39:14
    On 17 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 13 Apr 2020 at 06:19p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    I agree that these folks are good at what they do, but many of them g up poor. Some worse then poor.

    So now you're contradicting yourself....
    Did you NOT just say?
    that they are punished more harshly then whites.
    that they inherited cycles of poverty.
    that they are in ghettos of poverty and despair.

    You are conflating what happens to individuals with
    general trends in larger population groups. I understand
    this is difficult for you to understand.

    Who is the racist now? Is this how you see these people?

    You are.

    I wish everyone could rise to greatness, regardless of skin color.

    Hmm. No you don't. If you did, you wouldn't think any
    entire category of people defined only by skin-color was
    uncivilized.

    Would you behave this way?
    Destroying destroy police cars.
    Shoplifting at Stores.
    Looting Stores as a group activity.
    Burning a city nearly to the ground.

    I do not care what color you are, if you think any of that is normal then you are deemed as uncivilized.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, April 18, 2020 03:54:30
    On 17 Apr 2020 at 07:39a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Would you behave this way?
    Destroying destroy police cars.
    Shoplifting at Stores.
    Looting Stores as a group activity.
    Burning a city nearly to the ground.

    I do not care what color you are, if you think any of that is normal
    then you are deemed as uncivilized.

    Yeah, all of those things are bad and the perpetrators
    should be prosecuted. But calling _all_ people with
    dark skin "uncivilized", as you did, based on the actions
    of the relatively few actors who did those things
    is racist and, I would say, uncivilized.

    Are all white people uncivilized because uneducated
    racist hicks join the klan and their ancestors
    practiced slavery?

    "There are very fine people on both sides" - Donald Trump.
    (The other side are literal nazis.)

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Saturday, April 18, 2020 21:00:23
    On 18 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 17 Apr 2020 at 07:39a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Would you behave this way?
    Destroying destroy police cars.
    Shoplifting at Stores.
    Looting Stores as a group activity.
    Burning a city nearly to the ground.

    I do not care what color you are, if you think any of that is normal then you are deemed as uncivilized.

    Yeah, all of those things are bad and the perpetrators
    should be prosecuted. But calling _all_ people with
    dark skin "uncivilized", as you did, based on the actions
    of the relatively few actors who did those things
    is racist and, I would say, uncivilized.

    I did not call all African-Americans uncivilized, again not looking the
    color of ones skin, but if you're so angry that you have to commit violence and cause destruction then that would be uncivilized.

    Just as I believe taking knee when the National Anthem is played is highly disrespectful to the country that affords you collect millions because you have God given talents.

    There are other ways to go about this, other than disrespecting the nations flag where as so many have died to protect the freedoms and the values that
    the flag represents, many of those people are of the very same race.
    Not very intelligent, they care "more" about making a statement.
    They are cementing how society looks at them for evermore.
    This is why they are not taken seriously, patriotism and the common good rule the day and it always shall.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, April 18, 2020 16:47:00
    On 04-09-20, AARON THOMAS said to ALL:

    These are ALL Democrat Campagin Events:

    1) Everything on liberal news stations
    2) Trick questions that get asked to Trump each day
    3) Joe Biden's "Dueling briefings" <- what ever happened to them?
    4) Late Shows
    5) Broadcast TV's ignoring or Trump's daily briefings



    From "Days That End In `Y'";


    "CNN....Official propaganda outlet of the Chinese Communist Party!"

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 02:31:00
    On 18 Apr 2020 at 09:00p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Just as I believe taking knee when the National Anthem is played is
    highly disrespectful to the country that affords you collect millions because you have God given talents.

    It's actually not a disrespectful gesture.

    There are other ways to go about this, other than disrespecting the nations flag where as so many have died to protect the freedoms and the values that the flag represents, many of those people are of the very
    same race. Not very intelligent, they care "more" about making a statement. They are cementing how society looks at them for evermore. This is why they are not taken seriously, patriotism and the common good rule the day and it always shall.

    You've got some nerve talking about vets like that.
    Remind me where you served? Oh, that's right: you
    didn't.

    Veterans understand that when _we_ raised our right
    hand, _we_ swore to defend the _Constitution_, which
    includes the right to free expression. It's kind of
    an American thing. More specifically, it does _not_
    include some kind of right for your fragile
    sensibilities to not be hurt because you don't like
    someone using a platform to call something the way
    they see you.

    You right-wingers accuse others of being overly
    sensitive, and then go apoplectic the second someone
    says something you don't like.

    Grow up.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 17:26:38
    On 22 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 18 Apr 2020 at 09:00p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Just as I believe taking knee when the National Anthem is played is highly disrespectful to the country that affords you collect millions because you have God given talents.

    It's actually not a disrespectful gesture.

    There are other ways to go about this, other than disrespecting the nations flag where as so many have died to protect the freedoms and t

    values that the flag represents, many of those people are of the very same race. Not very intelligent, they care "more" about making a statement. They are cementing how society looks at them for evermore.

    This is why they are not taken seriously, patriotism and the common g

    rule the day and it always shall.

    You've got some nerve talking about vets like that.
    Remind me where you served? Oh, that's right: you
    didn't.

    You misunderstood what I was saying. Completely.
    Read it again, and this time slow down where necessary, so that you don't jump to conclusions.
    I was not disrespecting vets, I was standing up for them as a matter of FACT. My point was these self-centered individuals are the ones doing it to sensationalize themselves and to politicize; due to their liberal agenda.

    Veterans understand that when _we_ raised our right
    hand, _we_ swore to defend the _Constitution_, which
    includes the right to free expression. It's kind of
    an American thing. More specifically, it does _not_
    include some kind of right for your fragile
    sensibilities to not be hurt because you don't like
    someone using a platform to call something the way
    they see you.

    You right-wingers accuse others of being overly
    sensitive, and then go apoplectic the second someone
    says something you don't like.

    I'm sorry your point is what exactly, like I said you totally got it wrong
    with what I saying, as you usually do.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:31:37
    On 21 Apr 2020 at 05:26p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    You misunderstood what I was saying. Completely.
    Read it again, and this time slow down where necessary, so that you
    don't jump to conclusions.

    Oh I read your note. I know what you _think_ you
    said, but what you _actually_ said is more of your
    America-hating right-wing nonsense.

    I was not disrespecting vets, I was standing up for them as a matter of FACT.

    No you're not. You are spitting on everything that
    we bled to protect.

    My point was these self-centered individuals are the ones doing it
    to sensationalize themselves and to politicize; due to their liberal agenda.

    You don't have to like it, but it's their right to do
    whatever they goddamn well please as long as it's not
    directly inciting violence or slandering someone.

    And THAT right is what matters more than your fragile
    right-wing sensitivities, snowflake. THAT is what vets
    signed up to defend. When you and the rest of the
    right get your jockies all in a twist over some guys
    who get paid to run around on a field chasing a ball
    do when the national anthem plays, you're not standing
    up for vets, you're disrespecting the very thing those
    vets sword to defend.

    I'm sorry your point is what exactly, like I said you totally got it
    wrong with what I saying, as you usually do.

    No, I got it right, it's YOU who get it wrong. I don't
    care if you don't like NFL players sitting, standing,
    kneeling or whatever; hell, I don't even like football.
    I think it's fucking stupid. And why the hell do they
    play the national anthem at sporting events anyway?
    But whatever. I don't give a shit.

    But don't go dragging veterans into your idiotic arguments.
    We have less than nothing to do with you all getting
    triggered; your triggering is actually an insult to what
    we fought for since this nation was founded.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 22:14:31
    On 22 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    And THAT right is what matters more than your fragile
    right-wing sensitivities, snowflake. THAT is what vets
    The term snowflake does NOT refer to Conservatives, get it right cupcake.


    But don't go dragging veterans into your idiotic arguments.
    enough paper tiger, your delusional, keep beating on the chest.
    while you write these messages from your parents basement.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Thursday, April 23, 2020 01:53:40
    On 21 Apr 2020 at 10:14p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    The term snowflake does NOT refer to Conservatives, get it right cupcake.

    Sure it does.

    enough paper tiger, your delusional, keep beating on the chest.

    More like truthful and you can't handle it.

    How does it feel to be told that your worldview is
    a lie?

    while you write these messages from your parents basement.

    So do the wheels come off of your house, or are they
    just kinda permanently there?

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