• Fido Gazette

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Sunday, January 17, 2021 19:52:51
    After a few years of wondering, now I see the political humor in the "Fido Gazette" echo!

    Table of Contents:

    Editorial.............................2
    Far-right groups move to chat apps....3
    Echmail Statistics....................4
    This week's filegate report...........5
    Fidonet Software List.................6
    What BBS SysOps had for lunch.........8 (lol)

    It's hilarious how she almost blended an anti far-right report into the
    gazette like it's a teaspooon of sugar in a bowl of pudding.

    Does that far-right apps article seem out of place to most people?

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 13:47:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Does that far-right apps article seem out of place to most people?

    Yes, it does. But to Lefties anything not ultra-left is "far right".
    That's why many classical liberals are no longer "left". They are center leaning toward the right today.

    It's funny to listen to JFK today. If you gave a JFK speech today, the
    Lefties would call you ultra-right.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 01:54:18
    Hello Aaron,

    After a few years of wondering, now I see the political humor in the "Fido >Gazette" echo!

    Table of Contents:

    Editorial.............................2
    Far-right groups move to chat apps....3
    Echmail Statistics....................4
    This week's filegate report...........5
    Fidonet Software List.................6
    What BBS SysOps had for lunch.........8 (lol)

    It's hilarious how she almost blended an anti far-right report into the >gazette like it's a teaspooon of sugar in a bowl of pudding.

    Does that far-right apps article seem out of place to most people?

    I'd hate to find out what she did to those far-left groups ...

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron Lauzon on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 05:01:50
    Yes, it does. But to Lefties anything not ultra-left is "far right". That's why many classical liberals are no longer "left". They are center leaning toward the right today.

    It's doubtful that any conservative-ish chat apps will ever exist again. I never knew they existed in the first place, or else I would have probably been there showing my support.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Thursday, January 21, 2021 00:45:05
    everything in between. For example, I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative yet I also believe in socialized healthcare. Does this

    How fiscally conservative can you be if you're electing people who want socialized healthcare for the entire world at the American taypayer's expense?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 19:29:01
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Thu Jan 21 2021 12:45 am

    How fiscally conservative can you be if you're electing people who want socialized healthcare for the entire world at the American taypayer's expense?

    Socialized health care lowers the cost of health care for everyone.

    The same way a socialized police force lowers the cost of policing, ditto for the fire & rescue services. It makes good conservative sense.

    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's coverage.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 21:18:40
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Thu Jan 21 2021 12:45 am

    How fiscally conservative can you be if you're electing people who want socialized healthcare for the entire world at the American taypayer's expense?

    I believe everyone in the US is entitled to healthcare. Let's do some creative math and call this "Brian's Healthcare Example".

    Right now I contribute $450 each paycheck that covers medical, dental, and vision for myself, wife, two daughters, and son. $11,700/year

    I have a $1,200 family deductible that must be paid before the insurance starts
    paying anything. That amount is $7,000, less $1,200, because everything after $1,200 is 80/20. For the insurance company to start paying everything I must fork over $18,700 per year.

    So, we are now at $18,700 out of pocket maximum per year.

    Let's say I make $50,000 per year. My maximum out of pocket is $18,700 or 37.4% of my gross pay, not net. Let's assume my marginal tax rate is 12% (married filing jointly). This removes another $4,584 in taxes (50,000 - 11,700 = 38,300 - 12% (4,596) = 33,704 (net)). $33,704 / 26 = $1,296.30 per paycheck (26 cycles per year).

    So, my gross take home per year is $33,704. If you account for groceries, utilities, and the bare necessities, you'll be lucky to survice on $200/mo.

    Now, let's take various socialized healthcare plans that are being touted by the Democrats... 3% of Gross covers medical, dental, and vision. Again, let's go back to our $50,000 gross per year, less 3%. That is $1,500. Even if we keep the marginal tax rate of 12% on $48,500, or $5,820, our net take home is $42,680 per year ($1,641 per cycle).

    The math is there. Your inability to see the benefits of it for those that are
    grossly underpaid is why states like Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, and many
    rust and bible-belt states have people choosing between feeding their family or
    getting healthcare.

    Now, what about someone making $150,000/year. Okay, 3% is $4,500. It's a fair share. This reduces the income to $145,500, less the marginal tax rate of 22% or $32,010, leaves $113,490 NET.

    Again, how or why is this a problem? It works for Medicare/Medicaid as its been paid into on everyone's paycheck since they started working. Change the formula and everyone no longer goes bankrupt trying to stay healthy (or get healthy).

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 21:23:41
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Alan Ianson to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jan 20 2021 07:29 pm

    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's coverage.

    They barely want to pay for heathcare of Americans. There's always some excuse. I'd rather pay a little more and not go bankrupt than pay more and risk losing everything.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 08:33:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    It's doubtful that any conservative-ish chat apps will ever exist
    again. I never knew they existed in the first place, or else I would
    have probably been there showing my support.

    Parler is supposed to be coming back. At least that platform is a platform
    and doesn't censor speech it doesn't like.

    There are many others out there, but I don't see them getting much traction
    to stay in business without having to go fee-based.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 08:49:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Brian Klauss <=-

    everything in between. For example, I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative yet I also believe in socialized healthcare. Does this

    How fiscally conservative can you be if you're electing people who want socialized healthcare for the entire world at the American taypayer's expense?

    Another thing to understand about Lefties is that they completely failed
    their Economics classes and have no comprehension about how wealth is
    created.

    It kind of goes hand-in-hand with their lack of comprehension of human
    nature.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 21, 2021 18:01:07
    Socialized health care lowers the cost of health care for everyone.

    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's
    coverage.

    Does Canada cover medical care for illegal immigrants?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Thursday, January 21, 2021 18:07:18
    Right now I contribute $450 each paycheck that covers medical, dental,
    and vision for myself, wife, two daughters, and son. $11,700/year

    You're ignoring the open border and only thinking about yourself.

    What about when the USA is paying for all of central america's health care? You're too old to care - but how will your kids feel about paying that bill?

    How will chemotherapy for all of central america's cancer victims become affordable for your kids? It's not like dropping a nickel in a UNICEF box.

    Do you think people will chose 1) Die in of cancer in Honduras (or) 2) Walk into the USA and demand that Joe Biden pay for the chemo?

    Socialized health care for all Americans sounds good - socialized health care for anyone in the world (with 2 feet to walk on) sounds disasterous.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 16:09:16
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Thu Jan 21 2021 06:01 pm

    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's
    coverage.

    Does Canada cover medical care for illegal immigrants?

    No, if you don't have coverage in Canada you will need to pay out of pocket if you have no insurance. People from the US who travel in Canada need to have insurance in order to get coverage. The same is true of Canadians who travel to
    the USA.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 17:57:40
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Thu Jan 21 2021 06:07 pm

    You're ignoring the open border and only thinking about yourself.

    No, I am thinking of the vast population of Americans who are suffering at the hands of insurance companies and healthcare providers. Just last year I had to
    put out close to $19,000 to cover medical expenses (including insurance). How is this right? How is this logical? I don't care about the border; it's always been porous and this is from someone who grew up in Southern California.
    Let's focus on the real problems in America, not some made up Trump Fantasy Island.

    What about when the USA is paying for all of central america's health care? You're too old to care - but how will your kids feel about paying that bill?

    Again, where in hell are you coming up with this Central America line? Similar
    to other countries, Canada, Germany, UK, Japan, etc., their universal healthcare covers citizens. I will never be too old to care but I also believe
    in giving a pathway to citizenship to anyone who comes across the border.

    How will chemotherapy for all of central america's cancer victims become affordable for your kids? It's not like dropping a nickel in a UNICEF box.

    Again, this doom and gloom line is getting old.

    In 2019, the personal income of people in the United States wa approximately $18.5 trillion. So, again, let's calculate 3% on that, which is $525 billion.
    If we can't cover every citizen in America on $525 billion a year, we've got bigger issues.

    Do you think people will chose 1) Die in of cancer in Honduras (or) 2) Walk into the USA and demand that Joe Biden pay for the chemo?

    Again, the line is getting old. Where are you getting this Honduras crap? Please, site a reliable source.

    Socialized health care for all Americans sounds good - socialized health care for anyone in the world (with 2 feet to walk on) sounds disasterous.

    70 countries in the world offer universal healthcare including China and India,
    the two highest populated countries in the world. Please provide your logic as
    well as suggestions on what they are doing wrong so that we can fix it for them.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Friday, January 22, 2021 02:44:05
    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's
    coverage.

    Does Canada cover medical care for illegal immigrants?

    No, if you don't have coverage in Canada you will need to pay out of pocket if you have no insurance. People from the US who travel in Canada need to have insurance in order to get coverage. The same is true of Canadians who travel to the USA.

    Smart! I like the way Canada works. In the USA, Democrats have indicated that their "Medicare For All" is to include medicare for illegal immigrants.

    But we can just put it on the China card and pay it little by little.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Friday, January 22, 2021 03:09:20
    someone who grew up in Southern California. Let's focus on the real problems in America, not some made up Trump Fantasy Island.

    I don't know how things are in California, but if your illegals are behaving, then congratulations! I wish they would behave in NM, NY, & VA.

    Again, where in hell are you coming up with this Central America line? Similar to other countries, Canada, Germany, UK, Japan, etc., their universal healthcare covers citizens. I will never be too old to care

    Check your Democrats. The only Democrat at the primary debates who was against including illegals in Medicare For All was Amy Klobuchar.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/medicare-for-all/u documented-immigrant-health-care/

    So while the price of health care is expensive right now, at least we're not standing in line behind people who snuck in. How would we tell them "Sorry, we let you sneak in, but we're not gonna pay for your health care?"

    Again, the line is getting old. Where are you getting this Honduras
    crap? Please, site a reliable source.

    My sources are all over the news! Did you not know that there's a 1000 person caravan on its way here from Honduras? What's reliable? Every news channel is covering this story.

    Here's one from "America's #1 trusted name in news:"

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/01/18/guatemala-honduras-migrants-tear-ga -oppmann-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

    70 countries in the world offer universal healthcare including China and India, the two highest populated countries in the world. Please provide your logic as well as suggestions on what they are doing wrong so that
    we can fix it for them.

    Other countries are doing it better than us! Other countries, like Canada, offer free health care for their citizens. Biden & Harris want Medicare For
    All to include coverage for undocumented migrants.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, January 22, 2021 00:26:25
    On 22 Jan 21 03:09:20, Aaron Thomas said the following to Brian Klauss:

    Other countries are doing it better than us! Other countries, like Canada, offer free health care for their citizens. Biden & Harris want Medicare For All to include coverage for undocumented migrants.

    Its important to note that Canada's health care is farrrrrrrrrrrrr from perfect and has really been slammed since Covid.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 23:14:12
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Fri Jan 22 2021 02:44 am

    Smart! I like the way Canada works. In the USA, Democrats have indicated that their "Medicare For All" is to include medicare for illegal immigrants.

    Canada's health care program is relatively new. Other countries have been at it
    longer and have better working programs. England for example. I hope ours will work more like theirs in time.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, January 22, 2021 00:29:56
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:09 am

    Other countries are doing it better than us! Other countries, like Canada, offer free health care for their citizens. Biden & Harris want Medicare For All to include coverage for undocumented migrants.

    It's not free, it's paid through their taxes. The proposed 3% for healthcare in US would cover everyone and migrants if deemed plausible and financially feasible.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Brian Klauss on Friday, January 22, 2021 07:28:34
    Am 21 Jan 21 17:57:40 schrob Brian Klauss an Aaron Thomas zum Thema
    <Re: Fido Gazette>

    Again, where in hell are you coming up with this Central America line? Similar to other countries, Canada, Germany, UK, Japan, etc., their universal healthcare covers citizens.

    In Germany healthcare is mandatory for employees, meaning everyone working here
    pays for it - but then also gets covered. You pay 14,6% of your income, but at least 190 EUR, at most 700 EUR per month. Half of it is taken from your gross income, half of it from your net income.
    For that you get coverage for you, your wife/husband and children, als long as they live in Germany, are not employed, no freelancers and no civil servants. In case of illness, the employee gets payed up to six weeks by the employer, after that they get 70% of their gross income from the healthcare system for up
    to 78 weeks.
    And while it's nice to get treatment when you need it, I prefer paying for it without requiring treatment.



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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Gerhard Strangar on Friday, January 22, 2021 10:50:38
    Re: Re: Fido Gazette
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Brian Klauss on Fri Jan 22 2021 07:28 am

    In Germany healthcare is mandatory for employees, meaning everyone working here pays for it - but then also gets covered. You pay 14,6% of your income, but at least 190 EUR, at most 700 EUR per month. Half of it is taken from your gross income, half of it from your net income.
    For that you get coverage for you, your wife/husband and children, als long as they live in Germany, are not employed, no freelancers and no civil servants. In case of illness, the employee gets payed up to six weeks by the employer, after that they get 70% of their gross income from the healthcare system for up to 78 weeks.

    And while it's nice to get treatment when you need it, I prefer paying for it without requiring treatment.

    About five years ago I was asked to relocate to Germany from the US (my company
    was German) with my wife and children. The option to move looked very rewarding and promising. I weighed the overall expense as well as the public versus private option (due to compensation) and still needed more input. When talking with my German colleagues, it was all over the place between public and
    private.

    I ended up choosing against the relocation due to health reasons and the potential that I'd be denied healthcare for extenuating circumstances while on a work visa..

    Your last sentence, can you clarify what you mean?

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ALAN IANSON on Friday, January 22, 2021 17:00:00
    On 01-20-21, ALAN IANSON said to AARON THOMAS:


    Socialized health care lowers the cost of health care for everyone.


    As well as the quality of healthcare.


    The same way a socialized police force lowers the cost of policing, ditto AI>for the fire & rescue services. It makes good conservative sense.


    `Socialized policing'! .....Yeah....I can see it now....


    `Social worker/policewoman' to axe murderer standing over their latest victim;


    "So......when was it you first realized you hated your teddybear? Did it give you feelings of anxiety?"



    The American taxpayer is not going to pay for the entire world's coverage.



    They almost already do! Or did until Trump put a stop to a lot of it.



    Tagline;



    "Jill Biden's doctoral thesis: `How to keep students at Delaware Tech and Community College from dropping out!"






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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, January 24, 2021 03:16:17
    Hello Aaron,

    Socialized health care for all Americans sounds good - socialized health
    care for anyone in the world (with 2 feet to walk on) sounds disasterous.

    The Veterans Administration health care system is a godsend for US
    veterans. They love it. And for good reason.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Sunday, January 24, 2021 03:16:23
    Hello Nick,

    Other countries are doing it better than us! Other countries, like
    Canada, AT> offer free health care for their citizens. Biden & Harris want Medicare For AT> All to include coverage for undocumented migrants.

    Its important to note that Canada's health care is farrrrrrrrrrrrr from
    perfect and has really been slammed since Covid.

    The USA is getting rid of its invalids at a faster rate than Canada
    and the rest of the world. If you do not want to believe me, hop into
    your car and drive south. You might never make it back.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Sunday, January 24, 2021 03:16:30
    Hello Gerhard,

    Again, where in hell are you coming up with this Central America line?
    Similar to other countries, Canada, Germany, UK, Japan, etc., their BK>universal healthcare covers citizens.

    In Germany healthcare is mandatory for employees, meaning everyone working
    here pays for it - but then also gets covered. You pay 14,6% of your
    income, but at least 190 EUR, at most 700 EUR per month. Half of it is
    taken from your gross income, half of it from your net income. For that you get coverage for you, your wife/husband and children, als long as they live in Germany, are not employed, no freelancers and no civil servants. In case of illness, the employee gets payed up to six weeks by the employer, after that they get 70% of their gross income from the healthcare system for up
    to 78 weeks. And while it's nice to get treatment when you need it, I
    prefer paying for it without requiring treatment.

    What about maternity leave? And paternity leave? I mean, both parents
    should have time off to raise their babies, not just one of them.
    And then there is the cost of child care. Certainly parents who work
    should not have to pay for child care while their kids are at home.
    None of them would be able to afford to work. And the world wonders
    why the population of Germany is declining.

    This is especially true in the eastern part of Germany. But today's
    Germany is united, so this population decline is more universal.

    At least Hungary is paying women to make babies. And also Russia.
    They know what happens when there are no longer enough people around
    to work and pay their taxes ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sunday, January 24, 2021 03:16:38
    Hello Tim,

    Socialized health care lowers the cost of health care for everyone.

    As well as the quality of healthcare.

    I do not find people from Canada flocking to the USA for health care.
    I do not find people from Europe flocking to the USA for health care.
    I do not find people from the UK flocking to the USA for health care.
    I do not find people from Australia or NZ flocking to the USA for
    health care. But I do find lots of people in the USA who are still
    desperate for access to quality health care. Why is that? The USA
    supposedly has the best health care in the world, but at much higher
    cost, and is not accessible to all. Something is definitely wrong
    with this picture. And it needs to be fixed.

    The same way a socialized police force lowers the cost of policing, ditto >AI>for the fire & rescue services. It makes good conservative sense.

    `Socialized policing'! .....Yeah....I can see it now....

    Government provides, business denies.

    Funny I do not find doctors from Canada flocking to the USA.
    Funny I do not find doctors from Europe flocking to the USA.
    Funny I do not find doctors from the UK flocking to the USA.
    Funny I do not find doctors from Australia or NZ flocking to the USA.

    Maybe it is because countries from everywhere else have caught
    on to the insurance scam being run in the USA. By making access
    to quality health care available for everyone, none of their
    own doctors wants to go anyplace else. What a novel idea! We
    should try it in the USA! See what happens!

    "Jill Biden's doctoral thesis: `How to keep students at Delaware Tech and
    Community College from dropping out!"

    Dr. Tim Richardson, Ph.D, BS State University

    --Lee

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, January 23, 2021 22:26:42
    On 24 Jan 21 03:16:23, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    The USA is getting rid of its invalids at a faster rate than Canada
    and the rest of the world. If you do not want to believe me, hop into
    your car and drive south. You might never make it back.

    And the troll says what?

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 06:11:24
    Hello Nick,

    The USA is getting rid of its invalids at a faster rate than Canada >LL>>LL>and the rest of the world. If you do not want to believe me, hop into >LL>>LL>your car and drive south. You might never make it back.

    And the troll says what?
    Drive south and find out.
    It's your funeral.

    And the troll says what?

    Please. Don't breed.

    --Lee

    --
    Nothing sucks like an Electrolux

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 01:08:15
    On 27 Jan 21 06:11:24, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    And the troll says what?
    Drive south and find out.
    It's your funeral.

    And the troll says what?

    Please. Don't breed.

    And the troll says what?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Friday, January 29, 2021 01:08:32
    Hello Nick,

    And the troll says what?
    Drive south and find out.
    It's your funeral.

    And the troll says what?
    Please. Don't breed.

    And the troll says what?

    SAVE THE PLANET KILL YOURSELF

    Lee

    --
    My body, my choice! / Her body, her choice!

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, January 28, 2021 20:49:13
    On 29 Jan 21 01:08:32, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    And the troll says what?

    SAVE THE PLANET KILL YOURSELF

    And the troll says what?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)