• Peaceful Protesting

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Thursday, January 07, 2021 03:48:12
    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who attacked police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some buildings down, then will they be recognized as peaceful protesters? And will Joe Biden bail them ou of jail?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 23:36:34
    Re: Peaceful Protesting
    By: Aaron Thomas to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 03:48 am

    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who attacked police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.

    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some buildings down, then will they be recognized as peaceful protesters?

    No, they will be recognized for what they are.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:32:35
    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who att police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then t the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?
    ^^^^
    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.
    ^^^^
    But look at the double-standard - burning down buildings and looting in honor o George Floyd gets you the "peaceful protestor" title, but breaking a window on federal property makes you a "rioter."

    As a conservative in America, I will never feel safe protesting against anything.

    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some buildings then will they be recognized as peaceful protesters?

    No, they will be recognized for what they are.

    People who want a strong economy and a strong border wall?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:06:51
    Re: Re: Peaceful Protesting
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Thu Jan 07 2021 05:32 pm

    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.

    But look at the double-standard - burning down buildings and looting in honor o George Floyd gets you the "peaceful protestor" title, but breaking a window on federal property makes you a "rioter."

    What double standard?

    Nobody wants rioting and looting. Not the right, not the left.

    There are extremists on the right and the left and that can be a problem.

    I don't think these extremists that stormed the capital are supporting the average conservative, and also I don't believe the extremists who who riot after a BLM protest are supporting the average liberal.

    Donald Trump invited those people to show up at the capital and said it would be wild, and so it was. After it started, instead of asking these people to stop and go home he told them more lies about the election, and then went on to
    tell them he loved them and that they were special people.

    Where do you think that will go?

    As a conservative in America, I will never feel safe protesting against anything.

    The protesters could have protested as you could if that's what you want to do.
    I wouldn't go as far as these people went.

    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some
    buildings then will they be recognized as peaceful protesters?

    I wouldn't suggest that to my worst enemy.

    No, they will be recognized for what they are.

    People who want a strong economy and a strong border wall?

    The left and right both want a secure border and a strong economy. After Biden was elected the markets rallied, and they rallied again after the democrats won
    in Georgia in spite of this craziness at the capital yesterday.

    Americans are more alike than not in spite of their political divisions.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 07, 2021 20:59:52
    I don't think these extremists that stormed the capital are supporting
    the average conservative, and also I don't believe the extremists who
    who riot after a BLM protest are supporting the average liberal.

    Thank you. We are on the same page.

    Where do you think that will go?

    I doubt that Trump expected any of his supporters to act violently. It's not something that he should come to expect; they've been good up until yesterday.

    The left and right both want a secure border and a strong economy. After

    I hope you're right about that! Honestly, I haven't seen any dishonesty from Trump during his 4 years, but I've already seen hypocrisy and lies from Joe Biden and he hasn't even taken office yet. Let's hope that when Trump hands
    him the keys to the white house, it will be a wake-up call for Biden. Maybe he really does believe in God, and hopefully he will turn his corrupt dishonest hypocritical life around.

    He's already a saint through the eyes of the left, and I love his "Build Back Better" slogan. Maybe it won't be just a gimmick like Obama's "Health care for all Americans."

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:33:19
    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who attackedpolice officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today thepro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some buildings
    down, thenwill they be recognized as peaceful protesters? And will Joe Biden bail them ouof jail?


    Both groups of people, rioters/looters in the summer and anyone who SET FOOT on
    the congress building property, are criminal and should be brought through the justice system.

    Sure, the times are circumstance and I'm willing to dole out proper and fair sentances... I don't think either group should have to face the '10 year sentances!' that trump whipped into effect; but what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    No one is saying that the folks in the summertime were all 'peaceful protesters'... and we've been dropping charges on those who were actors. However the same thing should happen to yesterdays participants.

    They are all disgraceful. Mixed in the citizens who used their freedoms to protest in a legal way.



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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:34:39
    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who att police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then t the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.

    Nor were a section of the protesters from this summer.



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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:49:34
    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.
    ^^^^
    But look at the double-standard - burning down buildings and looting in honor oGeorge Floyd gets you the "peaceful protestor" title, but
    breaking a window onfederal property makes you a "rioter."

    As a conservative in America, I will never feel safe protesting against anything.

    No it doesn't.. I don't have all the facts in front of me, but can remember a few off the top of my head:

    '2 female New York lawyers charged with arson in police car burnings' 'Fire-starter in Washington captured and Charged in Tacoma'
    'Woman charged in summer protests, found by hand tattoo'

    ANYONE can have an opinion - just like many idiots will about yesterdays 'protest'; but it doesn't make it so, or fact. The hands of justice will move to charge those who broke laws and that should reign true for ALL protesters, rioters, looters and domestic terrorists.

    The 25th should be used. Now.



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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:51:11
    Donald Trump invited those people to show up at the capital and said it wouldbe wild, and so it was. After it started, instead of asking these people tostop and go home he told them more lies about the election, and then went on totell them he loved them and that they were special people.

    Furthermore, he said 'and I'll be with you'; before literally getting in his BEAST and driving the other way, away from the ensuing insanity.



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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 07, 2021 17:58:11
    He's already a saint through the eyes of the left, and I love his "Build BackBetter" slogan. Maybe it won't be just a gimmick like Obama's
    "Health care forall Americans."

    I think Biden is a horrible choice for a President of the United States... however, he was the best choice given the ticket we had to vote on.

    I'm probably a little left, but I am very conservative for some topics - that being said, the democrats could have found many better people for the 2020 ticket. They didn't; we voted.

    Even before his meltdown of lies AFTER this election, Trump couldn't [and wouldn't] have been voted in for a second term... He did it; I think he lost thru the covid response, but damn sure sealed his LEGACY with his response to the American people voting.

    And now, with yesterdays actions, I think America will make sure he can NEVER run again. I HOPE America learned a big lesson about wanting [needing] change. Even though we may feel that way we can never again choose someone who is of the character that Donald Trump prove to be. OMG.



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, January 08, 2021 00:47:00
    On 01-07-21 03:48, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to All about Peaceful Protesting <=-


    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who
    attacked police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    Your statement is akin to "when did you stop beating your wife". The
    people who attacked police officers or burned building are not peaceful protesters -- they are and were called looters and rioters.

    Likewise, the people who illegally stormed into the capital building and vandalized property were rioters. The people who marched in the street
    and who stayed in the street were protestors. Learn to get it right.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to paul lee on Friday, January 08, 2021 00:57:47
    Re: Re: Peaceful Protesting
    By: paul lee to Alan Ianson on Thu Jan 07 2021 05:34 pm

    Because today's pro-trump supporters were not protesting peacefully.

    Nor were a section of the protesters from this summer.

    That's true. The riots over the summer were a real mess (putting it nicely).

    The protesters were protesting the killing of black people by police. I don't support the black lives matter movement but I do support the idea that all people regardless of colour should not need to fear interaction with police or be hurt or killed by police without justification.

    A lot of folks seem to think BLM is a left wing thing, I reject that. I don't think it all that political at all, I see it as a policing issue that needs to be addressed in police departments where these issues exist, and I hope we can do that before trouble strikes.

    The police department in Minneapolis has made many changes since the George Floyd murder and I hope that those changes will be a success for them going forward.

    Another misconception is that the left supports defunding police. That is not true. BLM may support that the left doesn't.

    I am not against police officers either. I think that most of them get up every
    day and do their jobs (that can be a real challenge) to the best of their ability. All it takes is the bad behavior on one cop, or one department and things can go downhill real fast as we saw over the summer. I hope that episode
    is done now and we don't have to return to that again.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to paul lee on Friday, January 08, 2021 01:00:43
    Re: Re: Peaceful Protesting
    By: paul lee to Alan Ianson on Thu Jan 07 2021 05:51 pm

    Furthermore, he said 'and I'll be with you'; before literally getting in his BEAST and driving the other way, away from the ensuing insanity.

    Did Trump believe he could somehow change his election loss to a win?

    It just doesn't compute.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to paul lee on Friday, January 08, 2021 05:18:33
    They are all disgraceful. Mixed in the citizens who used their freedoms
    to protest in a legal way.

    I agree with what you're saying about this. Regardless of what they're protesting about, they need to do it peacefully. No disrupting business, no damaging property, and no causing injury to others.

    Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for the damages.

    If I was there, I'd protest too! But I wouldn't have set foot inside the capitol building. Those people need to get over it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Dale Shipp on Friday, January 08, 2021 16:35:35
    then today the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    Your statement is akin to "when did you stop beating your wife". The people who attacked police officers or burned building are not peaceful protesters -- they are and were called looters and rioters.

    We definitely get our news from different sources. ABC News' David Muir was calling them "peaceful protestors" (could have just said "protestors") when
    NYC was under seige.

    I agree with you - there were not many "peaceful protests" in NYC, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, or DC. If there were any, then they had to have been cherry-picked.

    But the only time I heard them referred to as "rioters" or "looters" was when
    I read Fox News, NY Post, or OANN. There were dozens of times when I tuned to CNN, NBC, and ABC, in the same day that I read the conservative news, and
    they were just saying "peaceful protestors."

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, January 09, 2021 00:20:04
    On 01-08-21 01:00, Alan Ianson <=-
    spoke to Paul Lee about Re: Peaceful Protesting <=-

    Furthermore, he said 'and I'll be with you'; before literally getting in his BEAST and driving the other way, away from the ensuing insanity.

    Did Trump believe he could somehow change his election loss to a win?

    It just doesn't compute.

    What does compute is the amount of money that went into his PAC from
    people contributing to his campaign for fighting the election results.
    That was money that did not for fighting the results, but went directly
    into a PAC that he can use for just about anything he wants.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, January 08, 2021 20:20:00
    On 01-07-21, AARON THOMAS said to ALL:

    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who attacked AT>police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today AT>the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?


    The difference is the protesters in the last few days were *mostly* conservative republicans (I emphasized the word `mostly' deliberately, as it
    is beginning to come out that a lot of those who engaged in forcing entry into the Capitol building were *not* really part of the peaceful protesters, but were members of ANTIFA).


    If the pro-Trumpers protest a little harder, and burn some buildings down, AT>then will they be recognized as peaceful protesters? And will Joe Biden AT>bail them ou of jail?


    That only works one way. The leftist media tells whatever version harms Conservatives and/or Donald Trump.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, January 09, 2021 07:02:06
    What does compute is the amount of money that went into his PAC from people contributing to his campaign for fighting the election results. That was money that did not for fighting the results, but went directly into a PAC that he can use for just about anything he wants.

    You should also tell Al that both sides use PAC funds to sponsor their
    buddies' campaigns. The same way Clinton PACs funded pedophiles like Anthony Weiner, Trump's PAC funds will fund somebody awesome like Ted Cruz.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, January 09, 2021 16:21:46
    Hello Dale,

    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who >AT>attacked police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media,
    but then today the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    Your statement is akin to "when did you stop beating your wife". The
    people who attacked police officers or burned building are not peaceful >protesters -- they are and were called looters and rioters.

    What we saw the other day were domestic terrorists doing their thing.
    On orders from their dear leader, Donald J. Trump.

    An attempted coup d'etat. Lt. General Russel Honor of New Orleans
    called it a Russian op. He was not privy to say anything more, as he
    is answerable to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    All 10 living former heads of the Department of Defense agreed
    not to involve the military in politics. That is why Trump tried
    to do it himself. Incited a riot in order to draw the military
    in, thus causing widespread mayhem.

    An attempted coup d'etat is exactly what it was.

    Organized, and directed by, Donald J. Trump. Of course, he was
    just following orders from his boss - Vladimir Putin.

    You do speak Russian. Nyet? Better start learning fast.

    On the other hand, Joe Biden will save us. So no need to learn
    Russian. Better to study Chinese.

    Likewise, the people who illegally stormed into the capital building and >vandalized property were rioters. The people who marched in the street
    and who stayed in the street were protestors. Learn to get it right.

    The people who "stormed into the capitol building and vandalized
    property" were domestic terrorists. It was an insurrection, led by
    their "commander-in-chief" Donald J. Trump.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to TIM RICHARDSON on Saturday, January 09, 2021 08:05:15
    as it is beginning to come out that a lot of those who engaged in
    forcing entry into the Capitol building were *not* really part of the peaceful protesters, but were members of ANTIFA).

    I heard very little about this, but yes, I've heard that these were actually Joe Biden's guys. I don't have any links for that though, but I want to
    believe it.

    That only works one way. The leftist media tells whatever version harms Conservatives and/or Donald Trump.

    They've already "stolen" this election by using fake news for 4 years. I guess now they're trying to secure the 2024 opportunity.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, January 09, 2021 18:08:34
    On the other hand, Joe Biden will save us. So no need to learn
    Russian. Better to study Chinese.

    Thank you for that!

    What we saw the other day were domestic terrorists doing their thing.
    On orders from their dear leader, Donald J. Trump.

    What orders did their leader give them?

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Alan Ianson on Friday, January 08, 2021 19:23:24
    That's true. The riots over the summer were a real mess (putting it nicely).

    The protesters were protesting the killing of black people by police. I don'tsupport the black lives matter movement but I do support the idea that allpeople regardless of colour should not need to fear interaction with police orbe hurt or killed by police without justification.

    A lot of folks seem to think BLM is a left wing thing, I reject that. I don'tthink it all that political at all, I see it as a policing issue
    that needs tobe addressed in police departments where these issues
    exist, and I hope we cando that before trouble strikes.

    BLM lost its... they just shouldn't have allowed the radical folks in it. That call for violence, 'fuck 12!' and other left wing idiologies... I do support the freedoms and rights of ALL americans. I do think there is disparity and racism, currently, for black Americans - but I can't support a movement that allows 50% of their message to be violence and overthrow the police.... I support change, that is compromised between all parties.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sunday, January 10, 2021 00:32:07
    Hello Tim,

    Why are the people who burned down buildings along with those who
    attacked
    police officers called "peaceful protesters" by the media, but then today >AT>the pro-Trump protesters are being called rioters?

    The difference is the protesters in the last few days were *mostly* >conservative republicans (I emphasized the word `mostly' deliberately, as it >is beginning to come out that a lot of those who engaged in forcing entry
    into the Capitol building were *not* really part of the peaceful
    protesters, but were members of ANTIFA).

    What we had the other day was a bunch of DOMESSTIC TERRORISTS entered
    the Capitol building and committed acts of violence and destruction -
    incited to do so by their leader, Donald Trump. The FBI reported it
    could not find any evidence of involvement by antifa. This was a coup
    attempt. An insurrection. Seditious and treasonous acts.

    The president will be impeached (again), with articles of impeachment
    filed on Monday morning. Then a trial will be held in the Senate, and
    Trump removed from office. Even after he has left office.

    Then the doj will conduct an investigation and Trump will be charged
    with inciting a riot (or similar charges) and then convicted and carted
    off to prison for the next 20 years.

    President Biden will not grant him a pardon.

    --Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to paul lee on Saturday, January 09, 2021 14:50:37
    Re: Re: Peaceful Protesting
    By: paul lee to Alan Ianson on Fri Jan 08 2021 07:23 pm

    BLM lost its... they just shouldn't have allowed the radical folks in it.

    Did BLM invite radical folks in?

    That call for violence, 'fuck 12!' and other left wing idiologies... I do support the freedoms and rights of ALL americans. I do think there is disparity and racism, currently, for black Americans - but I can't support a movement that allows 50% of their message to be violence and overthrow the police.... I support change, that is compromised between all parties.

    I dunno what 'fuck 12!' is. Can you enlighten me?

    Is BLM advocating violence or a violent solution?

    BLM wants to defund the police and that is the reason I can't support them, although when thay say "defund the police", I don't think it means what it looks like. I won't get into that, the BLM people can get that straight if they
    care to but I can't do that.

    I do support the idea that black lives matter and this issue of bad police behaviour, and the result of that behaviour comes up from time to time.

    I don't know what the solution might be, but it is an important issue.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, January 10, 2021 04:09:36
    The president will be impeached (again), with articles of impeachment filed on Monday morning. Then a trial will be held in the Senate, and Trump removed from office. Even after he has left office.

    Thank you for calling the US Senate. If this is an emergency, please hang up and dial 9-1-1. Our offices are currenly closed as the senate is in recess until January 22nd. Have a nice day!

    Then the doj will conduct an investigation and Trump will be charged
    with inciting a riot (or similar charges) and then convicted and carted off to prison for the next 20 years.

    How did he incite a riot? What did he say that was so inciteful?

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, January 09, 2021 20:21:28
    Did BLM invite radical folks in?

    BLM has radicals in its highest ranks, 'f the piggies, fry em like bacon'...

    I dunno what 'fuck 12!' is. Can you enlighten me?

    Its a deragatory term for f the police.
    Is BLM advocating violence or a violent solution?

    They have since the earliest times of their organization.
    I do support the idea that black lives matter and this issue of bad policebehaviour, and the result of that behaviour comes up from time to time.

    I don't know what the solution might be, but it is an important issue.

    I agree with you, and want change - just not thru supporting ideals that are just as crazy as the other sides.



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Tim Richardson on Saturday, January 09, 2021 23:14:04
    On 01-08-21 20:20, Tim Richardson <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Peaceful Protesting <=-

    as it is beginning to come out that a lot of those who engaged in
    forcing entry into the Capitol building were *not* really part of the peaceful protesters, but were members of ANTIFA).

    That statement is fake news and has no facts to back it up.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, January 10, 2021 21:25:56
    Hello Aaron,

    The president will be impeached (again), with articles of impeachment >LL>filed on Monday morning. Then a trial will be held in the Senate, and >LL>Trump removed from office. Even after he has left office.

    Thank you for calling the US Senate. If this is an emergency, please hang up >and dial 9-1-1. Our offices are currenly closed as the senate is in recess >until January 22nd. Have a nice day!

    Trump can save everybody a lot of time by doing what Nixon did.
    But maybe he doesn't trust Pence to do his part. That must be it.
    Nobody from Indiana can be trusted. Especially after losing that
    football came to the Bills.

    Then the doj will conduct an investigation and Trump will be charged >LL>with inciting a riot (or similar charges) and then convicted and carted >LL>off to prison for the next 20 years.

    How did he incite a riot? What did he say that was so inciteful?

    He incited an insurrection by his tweets and his spoken words.

    You can read all about it on Monday morning, when Speaker Pelosi
    reads the 4-pages long articles of impeachment. I am sure it will
    be covered by all the networks.

    Here are some excerpts -

    Excerpt: latest draft of articles of impeachment includes "incitement
    of insurrection''


    The latest draft of articles of impeachment against Trump includes
    "incitement of insurrection"
    From CNN's Manu Raju

    House Democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of
    impeachment against President Trump as soon as Monday, according
    to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

    Here's a portion of the latest version of the articles of impeachment
    that will be formally introduced by House Judiciary Democrats on Monday, provided by a Democratic source. It includes one article: “incitement
    of insurrection.”

    "President Trump’s conduct on January 6, 2021 was consistent with his
    prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certification of the results
    of the 2020 presidential election. Those prior efforts include, but are
    not limited to, a phone call on January 2, 2021, in which President
    Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to ‘‘find’’ enough votes to overturn the Georgia presidential election results and threatened Mr. Raffensperger if he failed to do so. In all of this,
    President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States
    and its institutions of government. He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power,
    and imperiled a coordinate branch of government. He thereby betrayed
    his trust as President, to the manifest injury of the people of the
    United States."

    The article continues:

    "Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that
    he will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the
    Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner
    grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law.
    President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from
    office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor,
    trust, or profit under the United States."

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/washington-dc-riots-trump-news -friday/index.htm


    There you go. What a fun ride it will be watching Trump's name being
    dragged through the mud between now and inauguration day. Of course,
    he can do himself a favor by resigning from office in disgrace. Just
    like his beloved (Richard Nixon) did so many years ago.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, January 10, 2021 21:26:10
    Hello Dale,

    as it is beginning to come out that a lot of those who engaged in >TR>forcing entry into the Capitol building were *not* really part of the >TR>peaceful protesters, but were members of ANTIFA).
    That statement is fake news and has no facts to back it up.

    The FBI released a statement saying it could find no evidence
    of any involvement by antifa.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, January 11, 2021 02:46:06
    There you go. What a fun ride it will be watching Trump's name being dragged through the mud between now and inauguration day. Of course,
    he can do himself a favor by resigning from office in disgrace. Just
    like his beloved (Richard Nixon) did so many years ago.

    Thanks for all the Nancy Pelosi quotes, but I was asking you to quote Trump.

    How did he incite a riot? Aren't we electing a guy who bailed violent rioters out of jail while on the campaign trail? So we're trading one riot-inciter for another?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 15:26:06
    Hello Aaron,

    There you go. What a fun ride it will be watching Trump's name being >LL>dragged through the mud between now and inauguration day. Of course,
    he can do himself a favor by resigning from office in disgrace. Just >LL>like his beloved (Richard Nixon) did so many years ago.

    Thanks for all the Nancy Pelosi quotes, but I was asking you to quote Trump.

    She spelled it out for all of us. Including you.

    How did he incite a riot?

    By his words and actions.

    Aren't we electing a guy who bailed violent rioters out of jail while on the
    campaign trail?

    The American people overwhelmingly voted for a man of peace.
    A man of peace who has pledged to unite this country, rather
    than divide it. He will be sworn in as president next week.

    So we're trading one riot-inciter for another?

    The president-elect is asking people to stay at home on inaguration
    day, and not to do what Trump supporters have done.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 16:17:12
    Thanks for all the Nancy Pelosi quotes, but I was asking you to quote Tru

    She spelled it out for all of us. Including you.

    She didn't explain anything.

    How did he incite a riot?

    By his words and actions.

    Have you ever been to court before? Facts are needed. Nancy has never had her facts straight in the past, and it doesn't look like that has changed.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 19:57:32
    Hello Aaron,

    Thanks for all the Nancy Pelosi quotes, but I was asking you to quote
    Tru LL> LL>She spelled it out for all of us. Including you.
    She didn't explain anything.

    She and her colleagues in the House made it abundantly clear
    this morning.

    How did he incite a riot?
    By his words and actions.

    Have you ever been to court before?

    Yes. Many times. Never lost a case.

    Facts are needed.

    Not at all. Only a good lawyer to represent you.

    Nancy has never had her facts straight in the past, and it doesn't look like
    that has changed.

    As Speaker, all she has to do is accuse.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 22:06:35
    Have you ever been to court before?

    Yes. Many times. Never lost a case.

    I think you're losing this one! Let's leave Trump in 2020 then. Can you not
    see that your people are investing their entire lives into Trumpstock? It's time to let it go. There is absolutely no reason to continue any conflict in the federal government.

    My only hope with this trifecta of crap is that the Democrats don't interfere with the safety of my community. Safety is not the Democrats #1 concern unless you're talking about air quality.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, January 17, 2021 18:31:01
    Trump was given his eviction notice on November 3rd. On January 20,
    he will be escorted out of the White House (if he hasn't left before then).

    Escorted out by Joe Biden, perhaps! But by security? Give me a break!

    I'll leave it up to NY Governor Andrew Cuomo to deal with Trump's
    thugs in your neighborhood. He'll know what to do with them.

    NYers reserve the right to do anything they want without consequence - but
    it's not Trump thugs that I'm scared of.

    Trump is a thing of the past! You've removed him from office. Congrats! But
    now that liberals have had a taste of Trump blood, they want more of it?

    Trashing Trump (that's all they're doing) doesn't turn me into a Joe Biden supporter. But if Joe wants my support then he can get it. I'll forgive him
    for crimes he committed as VP and give him a chance to move forward in a positive way.

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