• Demagogue Definition

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Friday, September 11, 2020 11:38:45
    I know I shouldn't believe everything I read online, but here's Google's definition of demagogue:

    "A political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument."

    Based on that definition, Trump is not a match. He uses rational argument to appeal to whoever is listening.

    But Joe Biden is an exact match for the definition of demagogue:

    He chose Kamala Harris as his running mate because she's black-ish and female.

    He thereby rejected Pete Buttigieg, the white male, homosexual, former lieutenant in the navy. "Thanks for your service in Afghanistan Pete, but you just ain't black or female enough for this gig."

    He also thereby rejected Tulsi Gabbard, the asian-Pacific islander, female, sexy, former Army medic. "Thanks for your service in Iraq Tulsi, but you just ain't black enough for this gig."

    I'm confident that you won't hear Joe Biden using the word "demagogue" while referring to Trump, because that word doesn't sound pretty coming out of his mouth.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 11, 2020 12:43:46
    On 11 Sep 20 11:38, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    But Joe Biden is an exact match for the definition of demagogue:

    He chose Kamala Harris as his running mate because she's black-ish and fema

    Biden's mental self-destruction will be a challenge for Trump to attempt to handle things with a calm demeanor during the debates; and it won't be Trump having a challenge handling restraint, it will be Mr. Push-Up-Contest.

    The biiiiiiiiiig question is Biden's reliance on teleprompters. Trump will mop the floor with him over this. Biden going off-script sells itself.

    Nick

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 11, 2020 10:04:38
    "A political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument."

    The definition goes on.. but OK.

    Based on that definition, Trump is not a match. He uses rational argument to appeal to whoever is listening.

    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    But Joe Biden is an exact match for the definition of demagogue:

    He chose Kamala Harris as his running mate because she's black-ish and female.

    It can not be any easy choice. I'm sorry she's not black enough for you, or white enough, male enough or whatever it is.

    He thereby rejected Pete Buttigieg, the white male, homosexual, former lieutenant in the navy. "Thanks for your service in Afghanistan Pete, but you just ain't black or female enough for this gig."

    I think Buttigieg is going to be a force to be reckoned with if he chooses to continue.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Friday, September 11, 2020 16:35:30
    The biiiiiiiiiig question is Biden's reliance on teleprompters. Trump will the floor with him over this. Biden going off-script sells itself.

    That's hilarious! Biden has a very corrupt act to follow.

    He's going to have to try to defend the Obama administration's use of the FBI to spy on Trump's 2016 campaign, among many other difficult to do things. They will need to use a stunt-double to pose as Biden answering such questions.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 11, 2020 18:15:02
    On 11 Sep 20 16:35, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    That's hilarious! Biden has a very corrupt act to follow.

    He's going to have to try to defend the Obama administration's use of the F to spy on Trump's 2016 campaign, among many other difficult to do things. T will need to use a stunt-double to pose as Biden answering such questions.

    Biden won't get that far, you lying dog-faced pony soldier... he'll challenge Trump to a push up contest or some sort of tantrum at the debates. Or he will try the shit-eating grin like Clinton throughout the whole debate. All Trump has to do is look straight at the camera and give that Apprentice "WTF" look.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Friday, September 11, 2020 23:29:14
    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational? ***********************************************************
    It can not be any easy choice. I'm sorry she's not black enough for you, or white enough, male enough or whatever it is.

    You're not getting all the news about this stuff in your region, I suspect. Because Joe Biden announced, shortly after winning the primary, that his choice for VP running mate was going to be "a black female." He didn't explain why, because here in the states we just already know that Joe's promoting Affirmative Action, a defunct Democrat USA policy which aims to
    give African Americans a platform to sue potential employers if they don't
    hire them. Joe's "doing the right thing" by political correctness standards by getting a woman who has skin darker than Trump.

    But a promise is a promise; so why didn't we get a woman who was 100% black? Think about what Joe was saying, and look what he delilvered. He stabbed his constituents in the back by chosing Kamala, not only because she's just 50% black, but also because Joe's constituents voted against Kamala in the primary. Think about it. If voted for Joe in the primary because they didn't like Kamala's policies, then what a douche bag Joe is for making her VP.

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black voters while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution, but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election day? Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    Al, I think you either miss TONS of news, or TONS of details. Try watching CNN, I bet they will give you way better details than any international
    or Canadaian news station.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 11, 2020 23:52:26
    On 11 Sep 20 23:29, Aaron Thomas said the following to Alan Ianson:

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black vote while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election d Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    The disturbing thing about Biden's you-aint-black comment was not so much the comment itself, but that it was just so casual for him to say it. Like he's been saying it for years. When he was forced to apologize for it because it
    was just so damning to his campaign (and subsequently for Democrats), didn't he just shrug it off as a "wise guy moment". As in, whats the big problem.

    Its just a tad bit surreal that he chose a running mate that really took him to task in past debates about his role in race related matters, yet she seems to be happily accepting her chosen role as the token black woman. Then again, who wouldn't be happy as VP to someone who likely wouldn't last a single term?

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Saturday, September 12, 2020 00:15:49
    The disturbing thing about Biden's you-aint-black comment was not so much t comment itself, but that it was just so casual for him to say it. Like he's

    I know! I wonder what goes on behind closed doors in Democrat meetings. I bet they still joke about conservatives taking their enslavement priviledges away.

    he just shrug it off as a "wise guy moment". As in, whats the big problem.

    Now that you mention it, what is a "wise-guy?" To me, a wise-guy is somebody who acts like they "know it all." So then, is Biden saying "I was being a know-it-all?" That means he was saying this:

    "I KNOW that 99% of black people will vote for me," and then by saying that he was having a "wise-guy moment," he's thereby saying "But I was wrong to say it out loud." So it's like he still hasn't learned his lesson.

    I won't hate the guy forever just for him being a lousy racist idiot, I just don't want him messing up our awesome US policy manual. He hopefully knows that he can forget about any Republican support on any far-left garbage proposals. If he will work with us, we'll work with him, but he'll be
    walking on thin ice after his involvement in the Obama administration.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, September 12, 2020 02:05:20
    That's hilarious! Biden has a very corrupt act to follow.

    Biden has decades of experience for people to look at including 8 years as vice
    persident beside one of the most successful presidents.

    He's going to have to try to defend the Obama administration's use of the FBI
    to spy on Trump's 2016 campaign, among many other difficult to do things. They
    will need to use a stunt-double to pose as Biden answering such questions.

    The witch hunt or the Russia hoax or are we calling it Obamagate today?

    I have a list of the jailed and indicted if you'd like to see it?

    This mess hasn't quite concluded yet. Michael Flynn admited his guilt but the current DOJ dropped, or is trying to have those charges dropped and of course Donald Trump commuted Roger Stone's sentence.

    Currently the DOJ headed by William Barr is as corrupt as the White House.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, September 12, 2020 02:48:42
    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational? ***********************************************************

    All the racism and lies.

    You're not getting all the news about this stuff in your region, I suspect. Because Joe Biden announced, shortly after winning the primary, that his
    choice for VP running mate was going to be "a black female."

    Yes, he said that and that's what he did.

    He didn't explain why, because here in the states we just already know that Joe's promoting Affirmative Action, a defunct Democrat USA policy which aims to give African Americans a platform to sue potential employers if they don't hire them. Joe's "doing the right thing" by political correctness standards by getting a woman who has skin darker than Trump.

    There are real problems today with this black/white thing, unfortunatly. Joe doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

    But a promise is a promise; so why didn't we get a woman who was 100% black?

    You're being silly again.

    Think about what Joe was saying, and look what he delilvered. He stabbed his constituents in the back by chosing Kamala, not only because she's just 50% black, but also because Joe's constituents voted against Kamala in the primary. Think about it. If voted for Joe in the primary because they didn't like Kamala's policies, then what a douche bag Joe is for making her VP.

    Sure, joe lead in the primaries and then chose Kamala as his VP pick. I thought
    Kamala might be the one, but it was a choice that Joe had to make as he thought
    best, and that's the choice Joe made.

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black voters while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution,
    but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election day?
    Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    Was Joe uninvited or unwanted?

    Al, I think you either miss TONS of news, or TONS of details. Try watching CNN, I bet they will give you way better details than any international
    or Canadaian news station.

    I don't watch all of what's going on in the US but I do my best to get the facts about what I do look at.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nick Andre on Saturday, September 12, 2020 14:17:00
    We know Trump lies about some things, no different than any past
    President. But I've also politely asked you to specifically prove racist things Trump has said or done, unless this is all just an act to obtain troll status.

    Since you insist he's a couple examples, the first from years ago.

    The Justice Department sued his company - twice - for not renting to black people.

    When Trump was serving as the president of his family's real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.

    The lawsuit charged that the company quoted different rental terms and conditions to black rental candidates than it did with white candidates, and that the company lied to black applicants about apartments not being available.
    Trump called those accusations "absolutely ridiculous" and sued the Justice Department for $100 million in damages for defamation.

    Without admitting wrongdoing, the Trump Management Corporation settled the original lawsuit two years later and promised not to discriminate against black
    people, Puerto Ricans or other minorities. Trump also agreed to send weekly vacancy lists for his 15,000 apartments to the New York Urban League, a civil rights group, and to allow the NYUL to present qualified applicants for vacancies in certain Trump properties.

    Just three years after that, the Justice Department sued the Trump Management Corporation again for allegedly discriminating against black applicants by telling them apartments weren't available.

    Here's another more recent one.

    He claimed a judge was biased because "he's a Mexican."

    Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.

    "He's a Mexican," Trump told CNN of Curiel. "We're building a wall between here
    and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings -- rulings that people can't even believe."

    Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. And
    as a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.

    "Claiming a person can't do their job because of their race is sort of like the
    textbook definition of a racist comment," House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said
    in a reaction to Trump's comments.

    These and so many more are the reason I believe Trump is a racist.

    Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.

    Why do you bring Janis into this?

    You must have a slightly better arguement than replying with "Google it" or little snippets of widely disproven / out-of-context Youtube clips.

    Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".

    You are free to believe whatever you like, based on fact or not.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, September 12, 2020 09:46:39
    On 12 Sep 20 02:48:42, Alan Ianson said the following to Aaron Thomas:

    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational?

    All the racism and lies.

    We know Trump lies about some things, no different than any past
    President. But I've also politely asked you to specifically prove racist things Trump has said or done, unless this is all just an act to obtain troll status. Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.

    You must have a slightly better arguement than replying with "Google it" or little snippets of widely disproven / out-of-context Youtube clips.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, September 12, 2020 23:37:24
    The witch hunt or the Russia hoax or are we calling it Obamagate today?

    It would be great if Biden used the words "witch hunt" during his debates with Trump!

    Or the Russian hoax? That would be a great talking point for Biden too! Leave it to a guy like Biden, he'll gaffe it up one way or another.

    Currently the DOJ headed by William Barr is as corrupt as the White House.

    What do you have to gain by a Biden administration? All I can gain is the laughs. It will be especially hilarious if Biden wins, then gets arrested for sexually assaulting Tara Reade. Wouldn't it be funny if they slapped the
    cuffs on him during his inauguration? I think I'd have a heart attack laughing.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, September 12, 2020 23:56:11
    choice for VP running mate was going to be "a black female."

    Yes, he said that and that's what he did.

    You might not realize this, but Kamala is half Indian. It's not the same as being black. My kids are half black, but they aren't black kids. There is a difference. Another thing you might not realize, is that Indians (from
    India) are racist towards blacks, and they carry that nasty torch to the United States. So that makes me wonder, on behalf of blacks in America, if Kamala knows anything more about being black than my kids do? Or does she know more about being Indian, which involves disparagement of blacks?

    What it all boils down to, is does Kamala bring any special talents to the table with her experience as being black? Can her experience lead to a policy that would help black children in any way? Or is her experience as an Indian going to lead to policy that would disparage blacks, as many Indian-Americans have done in the past?

    Joe Biden's running mate is only 50% politically correct.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, September 13, 2020 21:14:42
    On 12 Sep 20 14:17:00, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

    Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.

    Why do you bring Janis into this?

    I mentioned that you are trying the same sort of semantic twists that she's a grandmaster at. She's an expert at echomail, I don't care what anyone says in fact its a strong bold compliment. She plays the semantics like a grandmaster. You're still a long way off though...

    Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".

    Yes they were, but who cares - I'm trying to understand exactly how you
    arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism. Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim Jong's, etc.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them. As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such a sudden single-handed hostile takeover of a country of 300+ million people. Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years.... he's eventually gone.

    If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our country, they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and stories on the
    real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have it made big time.

    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country. It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird mental problem. I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sunday, September 13, 2020 23:47:49
    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country. It clearly

    If there was a foreign country with a leader who was causing harm to my country, it would lead me to bash that leader a bit. But I can't see myself really caring that much about it.

    It's possible that some of these Canadian guys who don't like Trump could be dairy farmers. They could be angry about a Trump policy that mandates that no more milk be imported from Canada because Americans were unable to sell theirs due to competition with the Candians. But that shouldn't cause derrangement; Canadian dairy farmers just need to innovate and find new ways to sell their milk at home. Or maybe sell it to Mexico or Russia? But to just complain about Trump for the rest of one's life, while the cows are mooing, is a mistake.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nick Andre on Sunday, September 13, 2020 22:30:32
    I'm trying to understand exactly how you arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    I'd use the dictionary denition like this from dictionary.com

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc.,
    and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Donald Trump is well known for suppressing opposition. The replacement of attorneys who investigate him or his administration, trying to block the Mueller investigation and denying and distorting information.

    Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim
    Jong's, etc.

    No semantics, use the dictionary definition.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them. As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such a sudden single-handed hostile takeover of a country of 300+ million people. Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years.... he's eventually gone.

    I wouldn't say it was sudden. A suprise perhaps, but it wasn't sudden.

    If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our country,
    they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and stories on the real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have it made big time.

    Fascism is thing that could happen anywhere. I am surprised to see it in America because of the freedom that Americans pride themselves on, and rightfully so.

    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country. It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird mental problem. I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

    I don't like Hitler or Mussolini either.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, September 14, 2020 17:46:41
    Hello Aaron,

    If there was a foreign country with a leader who was causing harm to my
    country, it would lead me to bash that leader a bit. But I can't see myself really caring that much about it.

    It's okay with you for Russia's Vladimir Putin to pay the Taliban to
    kill Americans in Afghanistan? Certainly seems to be okay with Trump,
    as he never bothered to raise the issue at all with the Russian leader.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Monday, September 14, 2020 17:47:23
    Hello Nick,

    Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.
    Why do you bring Janis into this?

    I mentioned that you are trying the same sort of semantic twists that she's
    a
    grandmaster at. She's an expert at echomail, I don't care what anyone says
    in fact its a strong bold compliment. She plays the semantics like a grandmaster. You're still a long way off though...

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I >AI>provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".

    Yes they were, but who cares - I'm trying to understand exactly how you >arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    Benito Mussolini had the best definition of fascism. After all,
    he wrote it. But your claim is Alan's definition is "bizarre".
    Please elaborate.

    Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a
    kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual
    murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim Jong's, etc.

    There is a huge world of difference between fascism and a personality
    cult. Mussolini's Italy was fascist. Had something happened to Il Duce,
    Italy would have continued to be fascist. Albeit under a different
    leader.

    Hitler's Nazi Germany was based on a personality cult. The personality
    cult of Adolf Hitler. Had something happened to der Fuehrer, Nazi
    Germany would have continued as a personality cult under a new Fuehrer.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them.

    Melania Trump has told the news media that Donald Trump has read
    Mein Kampf, as well as some of the writings of Benito Mussolini.
    Does that make Donald Trump a fascist or a dictator? Of course not.

    As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he
    therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such
    a sudden single-handed hostile
    takeover of a country of 300+ million people.

    I am not impressed by his clownish act. Some folks love it, for
    reasons only they might know. In any event, I have never claimed
    Trump is stupid or an idiot. A pathological liar, yes. But not
    stupid.

    Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years.... he's
    eventually gone.

    The man is 74 years old. I expect he will drop sooner than most.

    If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our
    country, they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and
    stories on the real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have
    it made big time.

    Fascism is an ideology. What immigrants are describing is not fascism,
    but authoritarianism and totalitarianism. Dictatorship is more like
    government by committee, not necessarily authoritarian.

    Mussolini had to deal with the guilds, and was never in total control. Corporations had their own say and had a hold on what he could and
    could not do.

    Putin is held in check by the Russian military. If Putin acts in ways
    the military does not like, he will be pushed aside and replaced.

    Military dictatorships have no check. When soldier tells peasant
    to do something, peasant better do what soldier wants. Or no more
    peasant.

    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US
    president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country.

    The POTUS claims to be the leader of the free world. As such, every
    person in the entire world is free to bash the POTUS. See how that
    works? It's the nature of the job. Exactly what the POTUS signed up
    for.

    It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird
    mental problem.

    Freedom. Such a beautiful thing. You should try it some time.

    I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about
    fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

    Would you rather me type in Chinese characters?

    --Lee

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Monday, September 14, 2020 12:16:58
    On 13 Sep 20 22:30:32, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

    I'm trying to understand exactly how you arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    I'd use the dictionary denition like this from dictionary.com

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other media
    outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist dictator would
    have NONE of that.

    He's even considering giving that whistleblower Snowden a pardon. Is that fascist dictator behavior?

    Fascism is thing that could happen anywhere. I am surprised to see it in America because of the freedom that Americans pride themselves on, and rightfully so.

    I'm not sure if you're trying to troll at this point or if you really need to have some simple comparisons explained to you.

    Last I checked, Americans still have their constitution, ability to vote and
    do things like burn their own flag without being executed for treason. They can also enjoy some neato things like have the freedom to buy guns and ammo, worship whatever deity they believe in and conduct regular elections.

    Seems like the complete opposite of a fascist country, yes?

    Whatever you see in the news is petty compared to what really goes on in a totalitarian regime. The protestors have the right to protest. They managed to convince the media and some politicians that defunding the police is a bright idea hence the prolonged violence and mayhem. The majority of the media reports negatively on Trump almost 24/7. They have the right to do this. And Trump is either gone in November or in 4 years. He's not sitting there forever plus he's in his 70's - Compared to actual fascist dictator dynasties that remain the same for decades.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

    How about "President", as thats what Trump is. Except he's not yours or mine. Perhaps its a good idea to take a break from your intake of the CTV/CBC evening news. You have many posts here complaining about American problems.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, September 14, 2020 15:47:13
    On 14 Sep 20 17:47:23, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Alcoholic Swedish troll ignored.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, September 14, 2020 21:49:40
    It's okay with you for Russia's Vladimir Putin to pay the Taliban to
    kill Americans in Afghanistan? Certainly seems to be okay with Trump,
    as he never bothered to raise the issue at all with the Russian leader.

    Give Trump the proof he needs then he'll shove it in Putin's face.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nick Andre on Monday, September 14, 2020 19:17:38
    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other media outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist dictator would have NONE of that.

    Sure, Trump and Biden are both ctiticized along with any number of others.

    Last I checked, Americans still have their constitution, ability to vote and do things like burn their own flag without being executed for treason. They can also enjoy some neato things like have the freedom to buy guns and ammo, worship whatever deity they believe in and conduct regular elections.

    Indeed. I hope the upcoming election will not be turned into a litigious circus
    and will not be violent. That may not be the case in Donald Trumps America.

    Seems like the complete opposite of a fascist country, yes?

    I see fascism in Amrica everyday. In an interview with Jeanine Pirro Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it. Extrajudicial
    killing is not law and order.

    Whatever you see in the news is petty compared to what really goes on in a
    totalitarian regime. The protestors have the right to protest. They managed to
    convince the media and some politicians that defunding the police is a bright idea hence the prolonged violence and mayhem. The majority of the media reports negatively on Trump almost 24/7. They have the right to do this. And
    Trump is either gone in November or in 4 years. He's not sitting there forever
    plus he's in his 70's - Compared to actual fascist dictator dynasties that remain the same for decades.

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse. That is not on my wish list.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

    How about "President", as thats what Trump is. Except he's not yours or mine. Perhaps its a good idea to take a break from your intake of the CTV/CBC evening news. You have many posts here complaining about American problems.

    I have said Donald Trump is president many times. We all know this.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 05:28:02
    Hello Nick,

    She's an expert at echomail, I don't care what anyone says
    in fact its a strong bold compliment. She plays the semantics like a NA>grandmaster. You're still a long way off though...

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Alcoholic Swedish troll ignored.

    Like I said, she's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 01:04:02
    On 09-14-20 12:16, Nick Andre <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other
    media outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist
    dictator would have NONE of that.

    He would supress them if he could, but he has no control over them.
    OTOH, he is suppressing scientific information from federal agencys
    where he does have control

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 07:17:52
    On 15 Sep 20 05:28:02, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    Like I said, she's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk. Just like you.

    And like I said several times before, the only one who cares about the hats is you, an unlisted troll. GFY.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 07:21:48
    On 15 Sep 20 01:04:02, Dale Shipp said the following to Nick Andre:

    media outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist dictator would have NONE of that.

    He would supress them if he could, but he has no control over them.

    Ahh but thats the thing, I keep hearing "he would if he could". He doesn't and simply cannot exert the kind of control leftists keep fearing.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 07:40:20
    On 14 Sep 20 19:17:38, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

    I see fascism in Amrica everyday. In an interview with Jeanine Pirro Donald Trump said..

    LOL this is getting silly now. Instead of whining to us all what you see, how about telling us all what you don't see. Like American families piling into caravans and driving up to our borders in search of a better life...

    Its embarassing and cringeworthy to keep hearing your obsessions with that evil orange bad man and how he's the personification of everything wrong with America, a country you and I do not live in yet appears to rile-up your blood.

    How ever shall you, a Canadian, handle the possibility of him being elected for another term? How ever will your fragile snowflake feelings handle it?

    Nick

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 05:45:24
    On 14 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...
    Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it. Extrajudicial killing is not law and order.

    This is a LIE... The person pulled a gun out and pointed it at the Marshals while resisting arrest.

    Trump is not polished like Obama was... but I'd take Trump's blunt truth to Obama's smooth lies.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 05:49:24
    On 14 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse. That is not on my wish list.


    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 15:00:15
    Hello Nick,

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Alcoholic Swedish troll ignored.

    Trolls no longer explode in sunlight, thanks to COVID-19.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 15:00:29
    Hello Everybody,

    Nick Andre tried to explain to somebody what the heck fascism
    is, or is supposed to be. However, he really should be forgiven.
    After all, he's Canadian. Which is why it is always best to ask
    google what fascism is, and if Trump truly is a fascist. After
    all, google is your friend.

    [..]

    Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I >AI>provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".

    Yes they were, but who cares - I'm trying to understand exactly how you >arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism. Or are you going to play >semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a kinda-sorta different meaning than >the term used to describe actual murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, >Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim Jong's, etc.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them.

    https://www.wisdc.org/news/trump-and-fascism


    Thank you, Mr Google.

    As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he
    therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such
    a sudden single-handed hostile
    takeover of a country of 300+ million people.

    I do not envy Trump (or any other POTUS). He asked for the gig.
    So who is the "idiot"?

    --Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to IB Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 06:35:12
    Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I
    will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be
    retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it.
    Extrajudicial killing is not law and order.

    This is a LIE... The person pulled a gun out and pointed it at the Marshals while resisting arrest.

    Trump is speaking of the actions of U.S. Marshals but I am not.

    I am speaking of Trumps words. "There has to be retribution.."

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to IB Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 06:39:56
    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse.
    That is not on my wish list.

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are
    under investigation.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 09:45:58
    On 15 Sep 20 06:39:56, Alan Ianson said the following to Ib Joe:

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    He's going to be gone either in November or in 4 years.

    He's not your president.

    Nick

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 08:54:54
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And >> will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be >> retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it.
    Extrajudicial killing is not law and order.

    This is a LIE... The person pulled a gun out and pointed it at the Marsh while resisting arrest.

    Trump is speaking of the actions of U.S. Marshals but I am not.

    I am speaking of Trumps words. "There has to be retribution.."


    And there was... What the guy did, to get to the point of US Marshals looking to bring him in was not good. I would have preferred to see him go through
    the process... but if his actions fast tracked that ... so be it...

    What is wrong with retribution?? Leftist mobs are burning down cities... businesses and murdering people. They should hold these people to account.

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 09:00:58
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse >> That is not on my wish list.

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    There is no evidence of this...none.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    Which IG was fired??


    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.


    Post Master was replaced to assist in the multi- billion dollar losses it
    makes yearly...

    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like
    Castro?? or other dictators??

    He's working hard to restore freedoms and give individuals their liberties back.

    IB Joe
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    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:17:42
    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I wi tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be retributio when you have crime like this.

    The killing of Solemani? The Iranian? Did you send flowers to his funeral?

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse. Th is not on my wish list.

    How could the leader of the USA be a small time dictator? Wouldn't he be more like a large-scale dictator?

    The media gives Trump too much credit for dictatorship. If you want to see a real dictator in the USA, who actually kills his own residents with executive orders, look no further than NY governor Andrew Cuomo, a proud member of the radical Democrat party.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Ib Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:24:59
    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like Castro?? or other dictators??

    It would be a peaceful day in Cuba if someone who worked for the Castros
    were to say "They fired me!" instead of saying "They burned me alive."

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:20:15
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse >> That is not on my wish list.

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.

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    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)

    I was driving down the road when I realized your Origin line and it's significants .... Dictator ??? Meddling in on investigations.... Bla Bla Bla...
    Can all be summed up in one word... Trudeau

    Funny as shit..

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:46:52
    On 15 Sep 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like Castro?? or other dictators??

    It would be a peaceful day in Cuba if someone who worked for the Castros were to say "They fired me!" instead of saying "They burned me alive."


    My home state is Florida... I know some Cubans... I've met and seen first
    hand the desperation of Cubans fleeing their country.

    I see the dictator Trump was out dictating again... Peace Agreement signed today for the middle east.

    Trump did say that you'd get tired of winning... Not sure if that's going to happen...

    :)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Ib Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 17:58:31
    I see the dictator Trump was out dictating again... Peace Agreement signed today for the middle east.

    You have me confused with one of the liberal guys.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to IB Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 15:40:52
    And there was... What the guy did, to get to the point of US Marshals looking to bring him in was not good. I would have preferred to see him go through the process... but if his actions fast tracked that ... so be it...

    I would have to, we would have some facts to go on. I was not talking about the
    actions of marshal's because I don't know what happened aside from that fact that they killed him because they said he brandished a weapon.

    Perhaps some details will come out.

    I was speaking to Donald Trumps words when you called me a liar.

    What is wrong with retribution??

    Really?

    You can have justice or you can have retribution but you can't have both. The whole reason for the justice system both here and in the US is so people can get justice when they are wronged.

    You seem to be advocating some sort of street justice. Steet justice can happen
    when the justice system fails.

    Leftist mobs are burning down cities... businesses and murdering people.

    That is a lie. Rioters could be left, center or right and don't care about politics. Rioting is not a political movement. There is nothing good about rioting and looting and it is not a left/right policy.

    There are extreme left/right wing groups. These groups have caused trouble in the past and currently but they are not democrat or republican. These groups are no help to democrats, republicans or the political process.

    They should hold these people to account.

    Indeed they should when people who riot/burn/murder can be identified, charged and convicted.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to IB Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 16:17:34
    There is no evidence of this...none.

    There is so much evidence of this. More of Bill Barr's manipulation of the justice system for Donald Trump is pending. Keep an eye out.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    Which IG was fired??

    There were several, to many for me to name from memory but I didn't get that from the dark web.

    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.

    Post Master was replaced to assist in the multi- billion dollar losses it makes yearly...

    Donald Trump himself, refused to fund the post office.

    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like Castro?? or other dictators??

    The secret police is a clear one. Trump "invaded" Portland with this secret unidentified police when unrest in Portland was slowing down and local authorities didn't want outside help. His action didn't help the situation.

    He's working hard to restore freedoms and give individuals their liberties back.

    Today we have the BLM protesters on one side of the street and Donald Trump supporters on the other side. People have been killed on both sides. That is Donald Trump's America, the situation we are in now.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 17:21:18
    On 15 Sep 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    I see the dictator Trump was out dictating again... Peace Agreement si today for the middle east.

    You have me confused with one of the liberal guys.


    No I wasn't.... I was responding sarcastically for the liberal readers whop might be trolling...

    :)

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 03:47:55
    Hello Aaron,

    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like >IJ>Castro?? or other dictators??

    It would be a peaceful day in Cuba if someone who worked for the Castros
    were to say "They fired me!" instead of saying "They burned me alive."

    Fidel Castro was cremated. But not until after he had passed away.
    Raul Castro is still around. Not yet ready to join his brother.
    But I do suspect he will also wait until he dies a natural death.
    With all the pretty nurses by his side.

    --Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 17:54:46
    The killing of Solemani? The Iranian? Did you send flowers to his funeral?

    I remember when this happened but the details are foggy now. No I didn't send flowers.

    Who was that guy? I don't have a good/bad feeling about it.

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse. Th >> is not on my wish list.

    How could the leader of the USA be a small time dictator? Wouldn't he be more like a large-scale dictator?

    In tuth, yes he is.

    The media gives Trump too much credit for dictatorship.

    That could be but that facts are clear.

    If you want to see a real dictator in the USA, who actually kills his own residents with executive orders, look no further than NY governor Andrew Cuomo, a proud member of the radical Democrat party.

    How did Andrew Cuomo actually kill his own residents?

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ib Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 20:50:17
    On 15 Sep 20 10:20:15, Ib Joe said the following to Alan Ianson:

    I was driving down the road when I realized your Origin line and it's significants .... Dictator ??? Meddling in on investigations.... Bla Bla Bla...
    Can all be summed up in one word... Trudeau

    Unfortunately you'll find a lot of his nonstop whining about American problems; either its a sad mental disorder or a desire to troll for shits and giggles.

    Nick

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ib Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 23:39:02
    On 09-15-20 09:00, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    There is no evidence of this...none.

    Have you been asleep? Look at the way his friends (Stone and Flynn)
    have had their investigations and convictions altered by Trump and Barr.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    Which IG was fired??

    There were at least four of them. Look it up.

    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.


    Post Master was replaced to assist in the multi- billion dollar losses
    it makes yearly...

    The only reason that the Post Office is showing a "loss" is because a Republican congress passed a law saying that they had to fund a 75 years
    worth of pensions. Before that was imposed, they showed a profit.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 22:27:51
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    What is wrong with retribution??

    Really?


    Googled the retribution ....

    Retribution comes from the Latin for giving back what's due, either reward or punishment. But when we talk about retribution, we only talk about
    punishment. The old punishment code of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," is an example of retribution. Some people think about large events
    like tornados or earthquakes as cosmic retribution for human pride. Some synonyms are compensation, recompense, requital.

    And yes... eye for an eye business is fine by me.

    We have a guy who killed someone, was seen on video doing it. A few days
    later he does a press interview saying he did it....

    He should not have resisted... with a gun... and we might have been able to hang him at a later date.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 22:39:43
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    You can have justice or you can have retribution but you can't have
    both. The whole reason for the justice system both here and in the US is so people can get justice when they are wronged.

    You seem to be advocating some sort of street justice. Steet justice can happen when the justice system fails.

    Yes you can....
    Justice was Google'd

    the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments

    Justice is the process of determining guilt where as retribution is see as
    the payment for the wrong doing... Court system finds you guilty (process)... sentences you to a term in jail... (consequence) AKA retribution

    The justice system is all we have to bring out the truth and show the
    evidence to the public. Buddy lost that right when he resisted arrest and
    even worse done so with a gun.

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

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    * Origin: Joe's BBS, JoesBBS.com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTPS:80 (1:342/201)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 22:47:09
    On 15 Sep 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    Unfortunately you'll find a lot of his nonstop whining about American problems; either its a sad mental disorder or a desire to troll for
    shits and giggles.


    Nick.... watched a rebel news clip today and it said Trudeau wanted to use
    the Canadian military to monitor Social Media accounts to find decenters of
    his Liberal policies. It took some clear thinking people in the military to make this fact known.

    There is something going on... dark times for free countries

    Anyway...

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Joe's BBS, JoesBBS.com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTPS:80 (1:342/201)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 22:52:23
    On 15 Sep 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...

    The only reason that the Post Office is showing a "loss" is because a Republican congress passed a law saying that they had to fund a 75 years worth of pensions. Before that was imposed, they showed a profit.

    Bullshit ...

    Post office looses money because people are not using mail like they use to
    and companies like Amazon use them, with cheap rates, to send the packages around the country.

    There is nothing wrong with re-assessing the mail system to rethink how the system should work in the 21st century

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Joe's BBS, JoesBBS.com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTPS:80 (1:342/201)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ib Joe on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 01:00:12
    On 15 Sep 20 22:47:09, Ib Joe said the following to Nick Andre:

    Nick.... watched a rebel news clip today and it said Trudeau wanted to use the Canadian military to monitor Social Media accounts to find decenters of his Liberal policies. It took some clear thinking people in the military t make this fact known.

    I'll check that out, I don't do social media except for Linkedin for work opportunities although I haven't been on that in awhile now. Are you sure its the military and not CSIS?

    I'm genuinely curious why no outrage by BLM and other leftists over Trudeau's blackface parties. Maybe thats why he took a knee and surrendered to them before the riots (excuse me, "peaceful protests") came to 24 sussex drive.

    There is something going on... dark times for free countries

    Totally. Its going to be even crazier come November.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to IB Joe on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 23:27:20
    The justice system is all we have to bring out the truth and show the evidence to the public. Buddy lost that right when he resisted arrest and even worse done so with a gun.

    A suspect is innocent until proven guilty. Once that guilt has been established
    you can have retribution it you must call it that.

    Michael Reinoehl's guilt (or not) can not be established now that he has been killed by US marshals.

    The "takedown" of Michael Reinoehl by a federal fugitive task force resembled an execution, according to a new eyewitness, Nate Dinguss.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 06:08:17
    On 16 Sep 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    On 15 Sep 20 22:47:09, Ib Joe said the following to Nick Andre:

    Nick.... watched a rebel news clip today and it said Trudeau wanted to the Canadian military to monitor Social Media accounts to find decente his Liberal policies. It took some clear thinking people in the milit make this fact known.

    I'll check that out, I don't do social media except for Linkedin for
    work opportunities although I haven't been on that in awhile now. Are
    you sure its the military and not CSIS?

    Nope, it was the military. It was someone in the military that outed him (Them)... I do not follow Canadian politics as much as I should. I have a friend in Mississauga that does... I usually get updates from him... He confirmed the story.

    The media was the place to go at one time... Now you have to dig on your own. There are a lot of sources on youtube... Rebel News and True North to mention
    a few. The mainstream media are not educating the public, they are hiding information from the public. Troubling times...


    I'm genuinely curious why no outrage by BLM and other leftists over Trudeau's blackface parties. Maybe thats why he took a knee and surrendered to them before the riots (excuse me, "peaceful protests")
    came to 24 sussex drive.


    They'll only cannibalize themselves so much... They were on the #MeToo for as long as it served them. They moved from that to other things, such as BLM, when it suits the left. This is supported by the poor quality of the DNC convention ... most of Hollywood's best movie producers are in jail... ever since Harvey Weinstein was sent to jail the Democrats cannot get anything produced right.

    There is something going on... dark times for free countries

    Totally. Its going to be even crazier come November.


    Hopefully it'll stop..

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Joe's BBS, JoesBBS.com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTPS:80 (1:342/201)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:28:30
    The secret police is a clear one. Trump "invaded" Portland with this secret unidentified police when unrest in Portland was slowing down and local authorities didn't want outside help. His action didn't help the situation.

    That sounds like a propaganda stunt. This story is nowhere to be found by any reputable news source in the USA.

    There's violence in Portland every day, whether there are "secret police" out there instigating it or not. They seem to be protesting Trump's presidency. They all have TDS. Many of them will lose their opportunity to vote him out because they are transitioning into felons, which makes them ineligible to vote. By taking themselves off the voting market, they are helping Trump.

    Trump offered the Democrat mayor Ted Wheeler(D) help from the national
    guard & he refused; so which guy is more of a promoter of violence in Portland?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:34:25
    It would be a peaceful day in Cuba if someone who worked for the Castros >were to say "They fired me!" instead of saying "They burned me alive."

    Fidel Castro was cremated. But not until after he had passed away.
    Raul Castro is still around. Not yet ready to join his brother.
    But I do suspect he will also wait until he dies a natural death.
    With all the pretty nurses by his side.

    But what is the significance of what you're saying? Not everyone is on LSD at the moment, but if you are willing to sell me a dose for like $5, I will totally join the party.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:53:01
    The killing of Solemani? The Iranian? Did you send flowers to his funeral?

    I remember when this happened but the details are foggy now. No I didn't se flowers.

    Who was that guy? I don't have a good/bad feeling about it.

    You mentioned something about "a dictator kills a man" and I thought you were talking about Trump killing Solemani. Solemani was a member of the Iranian military, and he was targeted and killed by US forces.

    If you want to see a real dictator in the USA, who actually kills his own residents with executive orders, look no further than NY governor Andrew Cuomo, a proud member of the radical Democrat party.

    How did Andrew Cuomo actually kill his own residents?

    Cuomo made an executive order (Andrew Cuomo + Execute Orders =
    Dictatorship) that nursing homes in NY MUST take covid-19 patients whether or not they have the capacity to quarantine them. This led to the deaths of more than 6,000 elderly NYers.
    https://nursinghome411.org/ny-nursinghome-covid-data/

    His only alternative would have been to just relax his cocaine-absorbed brain for a sec and let the covid-19 patients remain in hospitals. But, a dictator has got to do what a dictator has got to do.

    Aside from the nursing home massacre, his lousy bail reform law has cost lives. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/news/2020/01/14/man-released- under-bail-reform-facing-murder-charges

    The people of NY didn't ask for the nursing home massacre or for the ridiculous bail reform. All we can do is bow down to this guy while he murders our people, kill our economy, and gives the middle finger to crime victims and police.

    And we can't vote this guy out. Trump will be gone - guaranteed - either in 2020 or 2024. But Andrew Cuomo, the state dictator of NY, can remain in office for decades, and there's nothing we can do about that.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to IB Joe on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 21:14:21
    Hello Joe,

    The only reason that the Post Office is showing a "loss" is because a Republican congress passed a law saying that they had to fund a 75
    years
    worth of pensions. Before that was imposed, they showed a profit. Bullshit ...

    Post office looses money because people are not using mail like they use to and companies like Amazon use them, with cheap rates, to send the packages around the country.

    There is nothing wrong with re-assessing the mail system to rethink how the system should work in the 21st century

    Yeah. Let's go back to the way Italy ran their postal system
    in the 1990s. Talk about back to the future. Michael Fox would
    be proud. NOT!

    --Lee

    --
    Everybody Loves Our Buns

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 21:14:46
    Hello Nick,

    I don't do social media

    Hey! We have something in common! Hooray!

    --Lee

    --
    No justice! No peace!

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 16:51:48
    The secret police is a clear one. Trump "invaded" Portland with this secret >> unidentified police when unrest in Portland was slowing down and local
    authorities didn't want outside help. His action didn't help the situation.

    That sounds like a propaganda stunt. This story is nowhere to be found by any reputable news source in the USA.

    Are you living in some sort of bubble or is that simply denial?

    https://youtu.be/5pTqAn5mK-E

    There's violence in Portland every day, whether there are "secret police" out there instigating it or not. They seem to be protesting Trump's presidency. They all have TDS. Many of them will lose their opportunity to vote him out because they are transitioning into felons, which makes them ineligible to vote. By taking themselves off the voting market, they are helping Trump.

    The unrest in Portland predates BLM or the death of George Floyd.

    Trump offered the Democrat mayor Ted Wheeler(D) help from the national
    guard & he refused; so which guy is more of a promoter of violence in Portland?

    Cities and states are responsible for law enforcement in their jusidictions. There are federal resources like the national guard that can be called in if needed. That is available to states at all times and will be deployed quickly when called upon.

    Portland is trying to solve the problem. Going in with a military force and arresting everyone doesn't solve the problem, unless you are a dictator and plan to continue your crackdown.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 17:07:06
    How did Andrew Cuomo actually kill his own residents?

    Cuomo made an executive order (Andrew Cuomo + Execute Orders =
    Dictatorship)

    That is not dictatorship, that is a normal thing that all governors do.

    that nursing homes in NY MUST take covid-19 patients whether or
    not they have the capacity to quarantine them. This led to the deaths of more than 6,000 elderly NYers. https://nursinghome411.org/ny-nursinghome-covid-data/

    Are you speaking of the early days of the pandemic?

    Lots of mistakes were made here also when there was little good information about the best way to proceed and hospital spaces in NY were filling up. It was
    a huge problem.

    And we can't vote this guy out. Trump will be gone - guaranteed - either in
    2020 or 2024. But Andrew Cuomo, the state dictator of NY, can remain in office
    for decades, and there's nothing we can do about that.

    He will? I always thought Governors were elected in the US.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 05:11:28
    Hello Aaron,

    It would be a peaceful day in Cuba if someone who worked for the Castros >LL>>were to say "They fired me!" instead of saying "They burned me alive." >LL> LL>Fidel Castro was cremated. But not until after he had passed away. >LL>Raul Castro is still around. Not yet ready to join his brother.
    But I do suspect he will also wait until he dies a natural death.
    With all the pretty nurses by his side.

    But what is the significance of what you're saying? Not everyone is on LSD
    at the moment, but if you are willing to sell me a dose for like $5, I will totally join the party.

    Oh, c'mon man! Cubans get their meds for free! Everybody knows that!

    --Lee

    --
    Muslim rights are human rights!

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 21:58:53
    I don't do social media

    Hey! We have something in common! Hooray!

    I'm with you both on that. I use facebook only to promote business. It has affordable advertising for any business. But for BBS trolling, telnet all the way, right Lee?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 22:12:00
    That sounds like a propaganda stunt. This story is nowhere to be found by any reputable news source in the USA.

    Are you living in some sort of bubble or is that simply denial?

    How much are they paying you? You are too funny!

    Al, what it all comes down to, is there are Americans who favor Trump & some who don't. Our sense of democracy here is that if you don't like who's in office, then you vote against them. That's all a citizen can do. And if democrats are ever able to have it their way, then illegal immigrants will be a new voice in our elections.

    Let's be friends - I like my president. Yours doesn't seem too bad for a liberal. Trump does things specifically that help my family, and I have no choice but to appreciate it.

    When Trump does things you don't like, just tell me about it. I'll pass the word on to him as a concerned citizen. But you've got to be real with me first. Some of this stuff we've discussed seems ridiculously bogus to me.

    Trump doesn't paint an evil picture of Democrats doing ridiculous things.
    But look at all the crazy stuff that Trump followers do, well, they're doing it on their own. Trump's not paying anyone to do stupid things like the
    Biden train. The Biden train bailed people out of jail for burning stores to the ground, looting, etc. So with that being said, how can anyone judge Trump for... what is it now?

    Let's find common ground - if we're to bash Trump, let's at least point out how you would do it differernt?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 23:02:50
    Oh, c'mon man! Cubans get their meds for free! Everybody knows that!

    I'm not Cuban. I think I'd be scared to trip with you, but I'd definitely have a few drinks with you.

    You see, if we trip together, I might start to see crazy truths about liberals that will frieghten me. But if we drink together, then we will be less inhibited, and we can speak our minds from the darkest depths.

    I think the president and the house democrats need to get drunk together. Like what Winehouse guy? He totally needs to get trucked up a bit more. And Trump? I think he will finally smoke a bong in 2024 while handing the keys to the White House to some Democrat who's ready to give us back to China.

    It's inevitable. But on the bright side, no more suprise viruses (virii) from pissed off China. They will allow us health while we work to pay off the debt that Joe Biden will promise to them.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 21:27:32
    How much are they paying you? You are too funny!

    Nobody is paying me. These things I speak of are real and well known. They are reported by the mainstream media as well as the left and right media. You won't
    read about it on oann.

    Al, what it all comes down to, is there are Americans who favor Trump & some who don't. Our sense of democracy here is that if you don't like who's in office, then you vote against them. That's all a citizen can do. And if democrats are ever able to have it their way, then illegal immigrants will be a new voice in our elections.

    American's are free to vote as they choose, and also discuss issues if they choose.

    Let's be friends - I like my president.

    We are friends, at least in a kind of digital way. If I could I would shake your hand but I don't think that is going to happen.

    You asked me a week or so ago if I was American and I started writing other things and forgot to answer that. I have friends and family in the US. Mostly around Santa Rosa and Seattle.

    I understand you like your president and you are free to like (or not) anybody at all.

    I have an uncle Bob who is just like Trump. I like him but would never vote for
    him in any kind of election. He is a well liked person and I don't know if others in my family would vote (if he were running in some election) for him but we are all free to make our choice based on whatever we choose to base it on.

    Yours doesn't seem too bad for a liberal.

    He is OK, he's a politician so..

    Trump does things specifically that help my family, and I have no choice but to appreciate it.

    I don't think you need Donald Trump to get what you need from your government but I am glad you are getting something.

    When Trump does things you don't like, just tell me about it. I'll pass the word on to him as a concerned citizen. But you've got to be real with me first. Some of this stuff we've discussed seems ridiculously bogus to me.

    Donald Trumps complete lack of a national plan around coronavirus comes to mind, along with his disregard for any kind of science.

    The curruption of the current WH and DOJ is another thing that needs work.

    Trump doesn't paint an evil picture of Democrats doing ridiculous things.

    His whole campaign is based on the evil that democrats will do if elected!

    So with that being said, how can anyone judge Trump for... what is it now?

    You are living in Donald Trumps America now. He is not responsible for things like the coronavirus or the current civil unrest but he is reponsible for his response to it.

    Let's find common ground - if we're to bash Trump, let's at least point out how you would do it differernt?

    Trump has his advisors. Ivana, Jared and many more so I am sure he will find a way to where he is going.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:49:17
    We are friends, at least in a kind of digital way. If I could I would shake your hand but I don't think that is going to happen.

    Thanks. Presidents are only 4-8 years, but BBS buds are timeless.

    Donald Trumps complete lack of a national plan around coronavirus comes to mind, along with his disregard for any kind of science.

    Here's how I saw the coronavirus unfold in the USA:

    A cruise ship full of coronavirus infected Americans needed to dock in the
    USA. They docked, and people were treated for the virus on the ship, instead of them scampering off in random directions.

    Congressional Democrats were finishing up their second attempt at
    impeaching the president, which led them to a 2nd failure to convict.

    Trump soon told all Americans to "stay indoors." Disgruntled failed impeachment manager Nancy Pelosi got jealous of Trump being president and telling Americans to "stay indoors," so she gave advice of "don't stay
    indoors and come to Chinatown in San Francisco."

    Trump refused to wear a mask while giving an address to the people of the United States. That enraged Democrats. They wanted us to take directions from Trump looking like Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe. Trump told all Americans
    to wear masks when social distancing isn't possible.

    As far as I know, the country is still "closed" to foreginers, so at least we're not (hopefully not) getting more infections from foreigners.

    Congressional Democrats stalled the 1st coronavirus relief bill. They wanted green energy initiatives included in the bill, but Republicans refused to
    sign that, because they wanted to help the American people and not be duped by Democrats.

    Now Congressional Democrats (like Nancy) refuse to give the American
    people a 2nd stimulus check, which Republicans are ready to hand over,
    because the Demcorats are trying to infuse the bill with things that have nothing to do with coronavirus or economic recovery.

    So assuming that the borders are still as closed as possible, I am happy with Trump's response to the coronavirus.

    When asked what he would do different, Joe Biden said he'd sign a "national mask mandate," making it a police-enforceable offense for Americans to wander in public without a mask on. I don't think that's a good policy. I like things the way they are, where people don't have to get arrested for not wearing masks. After all, arrests are worthless in New York & California anyway.

    The coronavirus has been delivered to us from China, and a few other foreign countries that acted as distrubution specialists. People arriving from foreign countries don't care about stupid American laws, and they don't obey them. Some adorable Canadian people probably would obey the rules best they can, but ask a person from China who just arrived through a Mexican tunnel if they care about President Biden's "national mask mandate." That person will wear a mask when they go to the NY DMV to pick up their driver's license, maybe.



    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 22:26:36
    Hello Aaron,

    I don't do social media
    Hey! We have something in common! Hooray!

    I'm with you both on that. I use facebook only to promote business. It has
    affordable advertising for any business. But for BBS trolling, telnet all
    the way, right Lee?

    Well, I used to telnet. Back in the day. But with JamNNTPd making
    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass‚.

    --Lee

    --
    Every bite is a different temperature

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 22:27:22
    Hello Aaron,

    Oh, c'mon man! Cubans get their meds for free! Everybody knows that!

    I'm not Cuban. I think I'd be scared to trip with you, but I'd definitely
    have a few drinks with you.

    The Absinthe House. In New Orleans. Only the good stuff is served
    in that place. Oh, that green liquid is sooooo good! Better than LSD!
    Made out of real wormwood!

    "There was a house in New Orleans
    They call the Rising Sun ..."

    That's the place.

    You see, if we trip together, I might start to see crazy truths about
    liberals that will frieghten me. But if we drink together, then we will be less inhibited, and we can speak our minds from the darkest depths.

    The Green Fairie will reveal everything once you have drank from
    her fountain ...

    I think the president and the house democrats need to get drunk together.
    Like what Winehouse guy? He totally needs to get trucked up a bit more. And Trump? I think he will finally smoke a bong in 2024 while handing the keys to the White House to some Democrat who's ready to give us back to China.

    Too bad the president doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke, either. Talk
    about a loser. Won't even eat a fortune cookie, much less an egg roll.
    Yeah. We have those. In the French Quarter. For those wanting to sober
    up.

    It's inevitable. But on the bright side, no more suprise viruses (virii)
    from pissed off China. They will allow us health while we work to pay off
    the debt that Joe Biden will promise to them.

    Debt? What debt? We'll just default and let China pay for everything.

    --Lee

    --
    Nobody Beats Our Meat

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, September 17, 2020 16:53:01
    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass*.

    Is there any daily activity in non-politics echos? I think we are the only people using Fido.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to keep up with the times better.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 16:56:17
    On 17 Sep 20 16:53, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

    Is there any daily activity in non-politics echos? I think we are the only people using Fido.

    Some activity in the Linux, Mystic and Synchronet areas. Future4Fido is picking up a bit through gating using something called Telegram but I don't know much else about it.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to keep up with the times better.

    Its been a long-standing complaint... killing dead echos is almost impossible, but anyone can create an echo. You could even conjure-up one if you wanted.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 03:26:49
    Hello Aaron,

    We are friends, at least in a kind of digital way. If I could I would
    shake AI> your hand but I don't think that is going to happen.

    Thanks. Presidents are only 4-8 years, but BBS buds are timeless.

    Once a president, always a president.

    Jimmy Carter was POTUS from 1977-1981.
    He is still addressed today as Mr. President.

    Donald Trump was POTUS from 2017-2021.
    He will still be addressed after he leaves office as Mr. President.

    --Lee

    --
    I won't fan the flames of hate, ~Joe Biden

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 19:30:00
    The coronavirus has been delivered to us from China,

    You make it sound like someone ordered it from Amazon.

    The chinese are no more responsible for coronavirus than the USA is responsible
    for H1N1.

    and a few other foreign

    It's a pandemic. It affects every person regardless of their location anywhere in the world.

    countries that acted as distrubution specialists.

    The coronavirus made it's way around the world as a virus always does.

    What countries do you suspect of acting as distribution specialists?

    People arriving from foreign countries don't care about stupid American laws, and they don't obey them. Some adorable Canadian people probably would obey the rules best they can, but ask a person from China who just arrived through a Mexican tunnel if they care about President Biden's "national mask mandate." That person will wear a mask when they go to the NY DMV to pick up their driver's license, maybe.

    Even Americans need to pay attention to these laws if we want to get ahead of the coronavirus.

    https://youtu.be/2Gbg9FUW1Rk

    The CDC has a few simple guidlines to keep people safe in the face of this ongoing pandemic. Wash your hands, pratice social distancing, wear a mask when appropriate and avoid large gatherings.

    This is all inconvenient but it is simple and effective. CDC director Robert Redfield says masks may be more effective than the upcoming vaccine. Until a vaccine can be widely distributed and proven effective these simple measures are needed.

    Those guidelines are not to trample your rights, they are to keep people everywhere safe from coronavirus.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, September 17, 2020 17:24:52
    The Absinthe House. In New Orleans. Only the good stuff is served
    in that place. Oh, that green liquid is sooooo good! Better than LSD!

    There's a BBS called Absinthe. Is that yours?

    Too bad the president doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke, either. Talk

    I know he's a weird guy, but his policies are what keep me happy.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Thursday, September 17, 2020 17:28:39
    Some activity in the Linux, Mystic and Synchronet areas. Future4Fido is

    Thanks for that tip. I will check those out.

    Its been a long-standing complaint... killing dead echos is almost impossib but anyone can create an echo. You could even conjure-up one if you wanted.

    That's cool, and I didn't know fido was so open to new echos. But the future doesn't look bright for an echo when it's sitting in a bucket full of oldies like ham radio, collecting stamps, etc.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 22:36:50
    On 17 Sep 20 17:28, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    That's cool, and I didn't know fido was so open to new echos. But the futur doesn't look bright for an echo when it's sitting in a bucket full of oldie like ham radio, collecting stamps, etc.

    I created a masturbation echo but I was the only one contributing.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 17, 2020 20:02:04
    I know he's a weird guy, but his policies are what keep me happy.

    His politics from 1989 are similar to his politics today.

    https://youtu.be/Paf8MPhSG08

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 00:51:14
    On 09-17-20 16:53, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-


    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass*.

    Is there any daily activity in non-politics echos? I think we are the
    only people using Fido.

    Yes. You can take a look in the STATS echo for reports from various
    people. The FidoGazette also publishes a weekly report of traffic
    volumes.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to
    keep up with the times better.

    Dead echos are dead, and not a lot of bother -- but I agree with you.
    Question is, how to do that. As to adding new ones, anyone can do
    that. Problem is to get them advertised and to generate traffic.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


    ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 00:55:07, 18 Sep 2020
    ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30

    --- Maximus/NT 3.01
    * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, September 18, 2020 09:58:33
    Donald Trump was POTUS from 2017-2021.
    He will still be addressed after he leaves office as Mr. President.

    The liberal media calls him "Mr. Trump."

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Friday, September 18, 2020 10:14:10
    What countries do you suspect of acting as distribution specialists?

    Just China. I believe they are the distribution specialists who sent infected members of their government to other countries, such as Italy & USA, to dispense the virus.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Friday, September 18, 2020 10:24:06
    His politics from 1989 are similar to his politics today.

    https://youtu.be/Paf8MPhSG08

    Like Trump, I too would like to see the death penalty brought back to more states. We didn't have DNA in 1989, but now we do, and there's never been a better time to plug Old Sparky back in.

    I realize Trump was wrong to be so angry with those arrested for the crime back in 1989, because they turned out to be innocent, but I do share Trump's passion for justice for crime victims.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Friday, September 18, 2020 10:52:13
    Yes. You can take a look in the STATS echo for reports from various people. The FidoGazette also publishes a weekly report of traffic

    Thanks, I'll check those out.

    Dead echos are dead, and not a lot of bother -- but I agree with you. Question is, how to do that. As to adding new ones, anyone can do
    that. Problem is to get them advertised and to generate traffic.

    I guess this is where the other networks become relevant. But they are all sorta played out too, like each one has a Mystic BBS echo, a General Messages echo, a BBS echo - they are all about as bad as Fido in that regard.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 11:32:34
    On 18 Sep 20 10:24, Aaron Thomas said the following to Alan Ianson:

    Like Trump, I too would like to see the death penalty brought back to more states. We didn't have DNA in 1989, but now we do, and there's never been a better time to plug Old Sparky back in.

    Its not just having the death penalty, its having it actually work as
    a deterrent to crime. Eliminating the lengthly time and legal wranglings to executions would make it more effective like the way it works in Korea.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 11:35:51
    On 18 Sep 20 10:52, Aaron Thomas said the following to Dale Shipp:

    I guess this is where the other networks become relevant. But they are all sorta played out too, like each one has a Mystic BBS echo, a General Messag echo, a BBS echo - they are all about as bad as Fido in that regard.

    Its kinda how it goes lately. Lots of test messages, some banter about Linux and tech stuff, then it kinda dies down. Then another new system or
    nostalgic Sysop joins the party. Lather, rince, repeat.

    I'm not really a Mystic or Synchronet fan but admire how both those programs at least keep the campfires burning.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:53:59
    Hello Nick,

    That's cool, and I didn't know fido was so open to new echos. But the
    futur AT> doesn't look bright for an echo when it's sitting in a bucket
    full of oldie AT> like ham radio, collecting stamps, etc.

    I created a masturbation echo but I was the only one contributing.

    So that is where that leak is coming from ...

    --Lee

    --
    Impossible is nothing

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:54:09
    Hello Aaron,

    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass*.
    Is there any daily activity
    in non-politics echos? I think we are the only people using Fido.

    There is a little bit of activity in the Fidonews echo.
    And some activity in one of the Cooking echoes. The JamNNTPd
    echo sometimes has some activity. Fidogazette echo is mostly
    just the newsletter, but does have some activity from time
    to time.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to keep up
    with the times better.

    Which ones are active, and which are not? How does a sysop
    make that determination?

    Look at it this way -

    Each sysop is master of his/her own board.
    He/she can carry whatever echoes of his/her own choice.
    Or not.
    There is no "official list of Fidonet echoes".
    Only echoes that have been created by individuals.
    Aside from the Fidonews.
    Which existed before Time Itself.

    I am master of my own creation.
    Steve Asher handed me the CONSPRCY echo.
    That makes me the "owner" of that echo.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not list it on their system.

    You might decide to create an echo of your own.
    Call it by whatever name you choose to give it.
    Let's call it MONSTER.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not to list it on their system.

    As "owner" of the MONSTER echo, you can
    place restrictions as to who can post, etc.
    But sysops are the masters of all, and get
    to choose if they want to list your echo.
    Or not.

    --Lee

    --
    We're Great In Bed

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:54:42
    Hello Aaron,

    The Absinthe House. In New Orleans. Only the good stuff is served
    in that place. Oh, that green liquid is sooooo good! Better than LSD!

    There's a BBS called Absinthe. Is that yours?

    Nope. The place in New Orleans serves the real stuff.
    Straight from France. Was not legal in the USA for decades.
    But those of us here knew where to get it ...

    Too bad the president doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke, either. Talk

    I know he's a weird guy, but his policies are what keep me happy.

    His brother Fred was an airplane pilot. He was alcoholic, and
    a chain smoker. Donald took it very hard when Fred died. Age 46.
    Donald was age 35 at the time.

    Nobody likes his misguided policies. Which is one of the main
    reasons why he will be shown the door come election day.

    --Lee

    --
    Make 7-Up Yours

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Friday, September 18, 2020 14:59:37
    Its not just having the death penalty, its having it actually work as
    a deterrent to crime. Eliminating the lengthly time and legal wranglings to executions would make it more effective like the way it works in Korea.

    You are totally right. Nobody fears the death penalty much the way things are now.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, September 18, 2020 15:27:18
    I am master of my own creation.
    Steve Asher handed me the CONSPRCY echo.
    That makes me the "owner" of that echo.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not list it on their system.

    What about the sysops who have abandoned their echo? There must be some of them. If there are sysops who don't even run their BBS anymore, it would make sense to me to delete their echo, but of course other sysops might feel different and still carry the oldies.

    I can go ahead & scan all the fido echos on this BBS, but there's just so many old messages that I could be replying to people who posted something a decade ago.

    The BBS itself is becoming an old man, and we should all trim those crazy eyebrows off our systems.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, September 18, 2020 15:48:05
    Nobody likes his misguided policies. Which is one of the main
    reasons why he will be shown the door come election day.

    What misguided policy?

    Joe Biden is a guy who abused his power as vice president to get his son a job. Trump has given his sons jobs, as president, without abusing any power. What does that tell you? It's never enough for Democrats.

    Why should Lori Loughlin go to prison? For abusing her wealth to empower her daughters? Joe Biden did that same thing with his power. Joe Biden should either be impeached for violating the oath of office, or he should be arrested for raping Tara Reade. His sentences can run concurrently for all I care. But your party chose a very lousy candidate. And if you get Biden, then congrats, but liberal policy will depend on executive orders from Biden, and too many
    of those are not going to go smoothly with my people. You can also forget about any legislation being passed, but I guess that's nothing new anyway.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 18:02:14
    On 18 Sep 20 15:48, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

    Why should Lori Loughlin go to prison? For abusing her wealth to empower he daughters? Joe Biden did that same thing with his power. Joe Biden should

    She was hot as aunt Becky... very milfy.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 18:04:43
    On 18 Sep 20 15:27, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

    What about the sysops who have abandoned their echo? There must be some of them. If there are sysops who don't even run their BBS anymore, it would ma sense to me to delete their echo, but of course other sysops might feel different and still carry the oldies.

    An echo really "can't" be deleted. Once its created on who-knows-how-many systems, its just there.

    The other problem is dead echoes that get monthly moderator posts for
    unknown inexplicable reasons other than wanting a beacon of light on what once-was; or having several Linux and BBS echoes when one would suffice nowadays etc.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 17:40:56
    Like Trump, I too would like to see the death penalty brought back to more states. We didn't have DNA in 1989, but now we do, and there's never been a better time to plug Old Sparky back in.

    That has been debated over the years and there may be more debates when someone
    is convicted with evidence that is damming beyond refute.

    I realize Trump was wrong to be so angry with those arrested for the crime back in 1989, because they turned out to be innocent, but I do share Trump's passion for justice for crime victims.

    Indeed Trump has not/will not appologize for his error in judgement, ever.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, September 19, 2020 03:55:19
    Hello Aaron,

    Donald Trump was POTUS from 2017-2021.
    He will still be addressed after he leaves office as Mr. President.

    The liberal media calls him "Mr. Trump."

    Only the NYT. It's a tradition. Long-standing tradition.

    --Lee

    --
    Dieting doesn't work, Weight Watchers does

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:01:33
    She was hot as aunt Becky... very milfy.

    Hell yea Aunt Becky is hot. I don't think she needs to go to prison. Why should a bunch of terrible people get to stare at her all day? She should be at home.

    She didn't hurt anybody either, except for maybe a few other spoiled rich kids who were rejected in favor of Aunt Becky's brats. Well, she didn't kill anybody at least.

    But how many people died at the hands of Joe Biden when he interfered with business in Ukraine? How many "sons of bitches" does a guy have to kill to get a job for his son? (his words, not mine!)

    Let Aunt Becky go, and lock up that rapist Joe Biden!

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:13:44
    That has been debated over the years and there may be more debates when someone is convicted with evidence that is damming beyond refute.

    Debated where? In Canada? I bet that would help you guys out a bit.

    Indeed Trump has not/will not appologize for his error in judgement, ever.

    That's just a typical politician thing though. A candidate can not apologize for anything they've done. It's bad for business, in other words, you can't bring up negative things about yourself while you're in need of votes. Obama never apologized for all the harm he caused to the "black community" or to the working class. It's just something that politicians don't and can't do.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, September 18, 2020 21:17:59
    Only the NYT. It's a tradition. Long-standing tradition.

    Brooke Baldwin, Poppy Harlow, and plenty of other women who need xanax also call him Mr. Trump.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 20:01:48
    Debated where? In Canada? I bet that would help you guys out a bit.

    No, we don't debate that anymore. The death penalty was eliminated in 1976 but before that 1481 people were sentenced to death in canada with half of those being executed.

    Indeed Trump has not/will not appologize for his error in judgement, ever.

    That's just a typical politician thing though. A candidate can not apologize for anything they've done. It's bad for business, in other words, you can't bring up negative things about yourself while you're in need of votes. Obama
    never apologized for all the harm he caused to the "black community" or to the
    working class. It's just something that politicians don't and can't do.

    Sure they do, if they are man enough to admit when they are wrong.

    Mitch McConnell was man enough to admit he was wrong about the Obama Administration leaving the cupboards bare WRT the pandemic plan that previous administrations had in place.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 18, 2020 23:11:47
    On 18 Sep 20 21:01, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    She was hot as aunt Becky... very milfy.

    Hell yea Aunt Becky is hot. I don't think she needs to go to prison. Why should a bunch of terrible people get to stare at her all day? She should b at home.

    She's likely gonna get the fistjob by some dyke in the joint. Which is a real shame... a real shame. Lori back in the day was jerkoffable. Even if her character on that show was fucking John Stamos.

    But then again, quoting Step Brothers, if you were a chick and there was only one guy on the planet to sleep with, who would it be? John Stamos.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Friday, September 18, 2020 23:25:33
    On 18 Sep 20 20:01:48, Alan Ianson said the following to Aaron Thomas:

    Debated where? In Canada? I bet that would help you guys out a bit.

    No, we don't debate that anymore. The death penalty was eliminated in 1976 before that 1481 people were sentenced to death in canada with half of thos being executed.

    We really don't have the need to have the death penalty here except for evil bastards like Bernardo or Rafferty or Russell Williams. I feel like we should have it but not really make a big deal that we have it or promote it. And
    as I mentioned, it should be handled the way South Korea does it. I do notice in a good way that no liberal or leftist nutjob is quick to defend them or their civil rights except for their obligatory cheeseball lawyers... which thankfully we don't have very much of.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, September 19, 2020 10:12:14
    Mitch McConnell was man enough to admit he was wrong about the Obama Administration leaving the cupboards bare WRT the pandemic plan that previo administrations had in place.

    I haven't heard about that story, but Mitch McConnell does seem like a pretty good guy.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, September 19, 2020 19:16:34
    Hello Aaron,

    Only the NYT. It's a tradition. Long-standing tradition.

    Brooke Baldwin, Poppy Harlow, and plenty of other women who need xanax also
    call him Mr. Trump.

    I don't know what Madonna calls him, but I doubt she
    calls him Mr. Trump.

    --Lee

    --
    Impossible is nothing

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, September 19, 2020 19:17:04
    Hello Alan,

    Debated where? In Canada? I bet that would help you guys out a bit.

    No, we don't debate that anymore. The death penalty was eliminated in 1976
    but before that 1481 people were sentenced to death in canada with half of those being executed.

    The US started executing folks again this year, using the same single
    drug used by veterinarians to put down animals. Worked like a charm.

    --Lee

    --
    NO MASKS REQUIRED. THIS IS A NO-FEAR ZONE.

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Saturday, September 19, 2020 19:17:22
    Hello Nick,

    Debated where? In Canada? I bet that would help you guys out a bit.
    No, we don't debate that anymore. The death penalty was eliminated
    in 1976 AI> before that 1481 people were sentenced to death in canada with half of thos AI> being executed.

    We really don't have the need to have the death penalty here except for evil
    bastards like Bernardo or Rafferty or Russell Williams. I feel like we
    should
    have it but not really make a big deal that we have it or promote it. And as
    I mentioned, it should be handled the way South Korea does it. I do notice
    in a good way that no liberal or leftist nutjob is quick to defend them or
    their civil rights except for their obligatory cheeseball lawyers... which >thankfully we don't have very much of.

    There is no need for the death penalty anywhere in the world.
    Prisons are there to keep bad people locked up and society safe.
    I suggest Canada use its prison system better, than to allow
    bad people to roam free.

    --Lee

    --
    Love! Not hate! Makes America great!

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, September 19, 2020 13:29:16
    Mitch McConnell was man enough to admit he was wrong about the Obama
    Administration leaving the cupboards bare WRT the pandemic plan that previo >> administrations had in place.

    I haven't heard about that story, but Mitch McConnell does seem like a pretty good guy.

    Mitch McConnell is another Donald Trump enabler.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 16:44:18
    Hello Aaron,

    There is no need for the death penalty anywhere in the world.
    Prisons are there to keep bad people locked up and society safe.

    Sometimes prisons aren't there.

    Only in the most primitive of societies.

    Ask the crime victims.

    Why? They are not the ones in prison doing time for their crimes.

    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentences due
    to covid-19?

    Only those who have died.

    And how many have been relieved due to far-left prison reform?

    Again, only those who have died.

    Imagine saying this to a crime victim:

    "The man who electrocuted your granny in a homemade electric chair is being
    relieved of his life-sentence due to the coronavirus. It would be inhumane
    to let him remain in a prison with such a high covid-19 infection rate.
    Just don't get close to him. If he tries to electricute you, just kick him
    in the balls as hard as you can."

    Death takes us all. By allowing the convicted to remain in prison
    for the rest of his/hrt natural life, we take away the only means of
    escape he/she has from such a cruel fate. Now do you understand why
    those who seek to impose the death penalty are the ones who are out
    of their minds? It is liberals who are evil. Pure evil. Remember
    that.

    That would make me think my lawmakers need to go.

    It is activist judges who need to go. The US Constitution says
    there can be no "cruel and unusual" punishment. We must allow all
    those who have been convicted to serve their sentences as the
    lawmakers intended. Life in prison means life in prison. Nobody
    should give those prisoners a key.

    --Lee

    --
    Nobody Beats Our Meat

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 14:12:57
    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentences du
    to covid-19?

    Only those who have died.

    This is what happens when you don't watch my news channels.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:53:38
    Hello Aaron,

    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentences
    du
    to covid-19?
    Only those who have died.

    This is what happens when you don't watch my news channels.

    A sentence of life without parole means the only way one
    gets out is in a pine box.

    --Lee

    --
    There's no split in Cremo.

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 11:42:52
    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentenc
    du
    to covid-19?
    Only those who have died.

    This is what happens when you don't watch my news channels.

    A sentence of life without parole means the only way one
    gets out is in a pine box.

    You haven't heard about convicted murderers being released from prison due to covid-19 in California & Virginia? Or you haven't wanted to hear it? I'll admit - I didn't want to hear it either, but it's true.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, September 24, 2020 04:18:25
    Hello Aaron,

    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life
    sentenc
    du
    to covid-19?
    Only those who have died.

    This is what happens when you don't watch my news channels.
    A sentence of life without parole means the only way one
    gets out is in a pine box.

    You haven't heard about convicted murderers being released from prison due
    to covid-19 in California & Virginia? Or you haven't wanted to hear it?
    I'll admit - I didn't want to hear it either, but it's true.

    None who have been sentenced to life with no parole.

    --Lee

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Thursday, September 17, 2020 20:34:00
    On 09-12-20, AARON THOMAS said to NICK ANDRE:


    moment". As in, whats the big problem. Now that you mention it, what is a AT>"wise-guy?" To me, a wise-guy is somebody who acts like they "know it AT>all." So then, is Biden saying "I was being a know-it-all?" That means he


    If you were from NY the term `wise guy' has a rather sinister meaning. `Wise guy' refered to a `made' member of the Mafia. An actual member who fit the nationality requirement and was a `made man'.


    Tagline;


    "Congratulatons to the leftist democrats; You've succeeded in defeating two cartoons, a box of cereal, an ice cream bar, a pancake mix, and a bottle of syrup! You solved racism!"

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to NICK ANDRE on Thursday, September 17, 2020 21:08:00
    On 09-15-20, DALE SHIPP said to NICK ANDRE:

    On 09-14-20 12:16, Nick Andre <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other
    media outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist
    dictator would have NONE of that.


    He would supress them if he could, but he has no control over them.


    Another bald-faced lie from the left!


    OTOH, he is suppressing scientific information from federal agencys
    where he does have control


    And yet another one!


    If it weren't for lies....the lefties wouldn't have any words to spout at all!



    Tagline;


    "Wait until the people who just want to be left alone get involved!"

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, September 26, 2020 15:03:42
    On 15 Sep 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 09-15-20 09:00, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    There is no evidence of this...none.

    Have you been asleep? Look at the way his friends (Stone and Flynn)
    have had their investigations and convictions altered by Trump and Barr.

    Have you been brainwashed by Rachel Maddow Area 51 conspiracy channel that is MSNBC?

    It was a setup for both of Stone and Flynn, specially for Flynn with being told oh, you won't need your lawyer... We who are the FBI just want to ask you (Flynn) some questions. What happened? The FBI got Flynn on a so called perjury charge because the FBI already knew the answers to the
    questions.

    Stone was arrested in the early morning hours and CNN just so happens to be there. Too Perfect even for Fake News. They were tipped off and wanted a
    grand spectacle arresting what they considered one of Trump's Men.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, February 07, 2021 09:43:22

    The chinese are no more responsible for coronavirus than the USA is responsible for H1N1.

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    From the pals at Google.com
    Question: Where did COVID-19 come from?

    Answer: An outbreak of pneumonia of unknown etiology in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China was initially reported to WHO on December 31, 2019.
    Chinese authorities identified a novel coronavirus (i.e., SARS-CoV-2), which has now resulted in millions of confirmed human infections globally.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 07, 2021 16:27:48
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, February 07, 2021 19:51:00
    Alan Ianson wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know
    this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any
    more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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    Oh, GD. You're going to want to apply cold water the that burned area, kid.

    Like... an icebath.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Vague on Sunday, February 07, 2021 17:49:24
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Vague to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 07:51 pm

    Oh, GD. You're going to want to apply cold water the that burned area, kid.

    What burned area, man?

    Don't be so vague!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Captain, he's thinking about my breasts again! - Deanna Troy
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Monday, February 08, 2021 20:42:36
    On 07 Feb 2021, Alan Ianson said the following...

    396/45
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are direc responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The dream is mine... if this is true, why not ask Dr. Li Wenliang? Opps can't because he's dead at 34 years of age.
    He was the one who sounded early alarm w/covid-19.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (s flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gregory Deyss on Monday, February 08, 2021 19:44:40
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 08 2021 08:42 pm

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it
    was first found and identified in the US.

    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alan Ianson on Monday, February 08, 2021 07:05:57
    Am 07 Feb 21 16:27:48 schrob Alan Ianson an Gregory Deyss zum Thema
    <Re: Demagogue Definition>

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy figthing WWI.



    Tschoe mit Oe
    Gerhard
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gerhard Strangar on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 17:26:35
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 08 2021 07:05 am

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more
    than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy figthing WWI.

    My understanding is that in those times Spain had a healthy free press and were
    publishing good and accurate stories regarding the pandemic.

    I don't know where the Spanish flu originates but it was not Spain.

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the coronavirus comes
    from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 18:06:50
    Am 08 Feb 21 19:44:40 schrob Alan Ianson an Gregory Deyss zum Thema
    <Re: Demagogue Definition>

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it
    was first found and identified in the US.
    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.
    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.



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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gerhard Strangar on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 21:59:04
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Alan Ianson on Tue Feb 09 2021 06:06 pm

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.

    No, I am talking about the 2009 pandemic, Swine Flu I think it is referred to as and is also an H1N1 flu.

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, February 13, 2021 13:23:22
    Hello Alan,

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more >AI>>than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The >GS>Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy >GS>figthing WWI.

    My understanding is that in those times Spain had a healthy free press and
    were publishing good and accurate stories regarding the pandemic.

    Nobody knows for certain where the Spanish Flu originated. The idea
    of the virus having originated in Kansas was due to US military having
    a base there where troops were trained to fight in Europe. But that is
    a very weak theory, as most troops were transported by ship rather than
    by air in those days.

    Over half of the world's population lives in SE Asia, from India,
    China, Indochina, Japan. On the other side of the ocean is the USA,
    with California being the home of many Asians, especially Chinese
    and others from SE Asia.

    I don't know where the Spanish flu originates but it was not Spain.

    It was introduced in Spain by soldiers who fought in WWI. And/or by
    those who cared for soldiers who were infected.

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the coronavirus
    comes from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    The novel coronavirus may have been latent for decades, with it
    suddenly transforming into a pandemic no country could stop. It is
    known that others had the virus before it was detected in Wuhan.
    Could easily have originated in Laos. Or Vietnam. Or India. Or a
    number of other places other than China.

    As for the epoch times, do keep in mind the writers of that online
    publication are very gifted, and could possibly be the best in the
    entire universe. So please do give them credit.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, February 13, 2021 13:23:28
    Hello Alan,

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.

    No, I am talking about the 2009 pandemic, Swine Flu I think it is referred
    to as and is also an H1N1 flu.

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Are you really that old? The Spanish Flu happened in 1918.
    That would make you ... really old.
    Possibly the oldest sysop in Fidonet.

    "May you live long, and prosper." ~Mr Spock

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, February 13, 2021 04:06:48
    Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Lee Lofaso to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 2021 01:23 pm

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the
    coronavirus comes from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    As for the epoch times, do keep in mind the writers of that online publication are very gifted, and could possibly be the best in the
    entire universe. So please do give them credit.

    Yep, I gave them their due credit, it's right up above there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, February 13, 2021 04:09:23
    Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Lee Lofaso to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 2021 01:23 pm

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Are you really that old? The Spanish Flu happened in 1918.

    Yes, that is why I have little knowledge of it.

    That would make you ... really old.

    I have some years to go before retirement!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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