• Democrat Lies

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Monday, August 17, 2020 11:38:03
    Joe Biden took some questions from Cardi B about some popular issues: Education & Health Care.

    Cardi B asked him "Can you provide free college education and health care without us having to pay for in our paychecks?"

    Biden responded by saying "Yes because I'll make sure that corporations pay their share." (He's gonna raise taxes for corporations which will send business back to Asia.)

    Biden also expressed interest in getting more young people to vote. (Young people with impressionable minds who will buy his gimmicks.)

    What a load of crap? Not just because I'm a conservative & Republican voter, but because we just watched Obama lie about healthcare for 8 years, only to leave office with an even worse health care system. Now we're gonna trust his amigo with more health care promises? And toss in a free college education joke while he's at it?

    Cardi B, and all young people, should realize that a Democrat in the oval office is useless against a Republican majority senate, and these ridiculous handouts will never pass. But Joe will be able to sell more books and interviews, and speeches, and he'll be able to get Hunter that job he always wanted.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, August 17, 2020 16:58:41
    On 17 Aug 20 11:38, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Cardi B asked him "Can you provide free college education and health care without us having to pay for in our paychecks?"

    But what did her hair smell like?

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Monday, August 17, 2020 18:37:23
    Cardi B asked him "Can you provide free college education and health care without us having to pay for in our paychecks?"

    But what did her hair smell like?

    Must have smelled so good he forgot about math 101.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 07:51:57
    On 17 Aug 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    On 17 Aug 20 11:38, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Cardi B asked him "Can you provide free college education and health c without us having to pay for in our paychecks?"

    But what did her hair smell like?
    OMFG did you get a glance at those finger nails.
    looked like something out of doom.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:07:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Biden responded by saying "Yes because I'll make sure that corporations pay their share." (He's gonna raise taxes for corporations which will
    send business back to Asia.)

    Not to mention it will raise prices for the products those corporations make. So while it's not coming directly from our paychecks, it still comes out
    of our of wallets.

    The "Free college education" is simply a way for the Dems to help out their co-conspirators who have cushy jobs in the colleges. Right now, colleges
    are having a big problem in that people have figured out that, for many,
    a college education isn't worth the years of crushing student loans.

    So "free college education" means that the "professor" who teaches "gender studies" gets to keep her job and the tax payers have to pay for a snowflake
    to get a worthless degree.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Ron Lauzon on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 18:10:05
    So "free college education" means that the "professor" who teaches "gender studies" gets to keep her job and the tax payers have to pay for a snowflak to get a worthless degree.

    That sounds familiar! But instead of leaving it up to states, like Trump has, Biden would rather mandate it for the entire USA and let the national debt pay the bill.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 15:11:05
    Hello Aaron,

    So "free college education" means that the "professor" who teaches
    "gender RL> studies" gets to keep her job and the tax payers have to pay
    for a snowflak RL> to get a worthless degree.

    That sounds familiar! But instead of leaving it up to states, like Trump
    has, Biden would rather mandate it for the entire USA and let the national debt pay the bill.

    Both Louisiana and Georgia have free college tuition for students.
    Why not all other states? These state programs have proven very
    popular, and have been in place for decades. Bernie Sanders has
    suggested all public colleges and universities should be free, as
    taxypayers already pay for them. Should a president make it mandatory
    for all colleges and universities to have free tuition? I think it
    should remain a state issue, not federal. But that is my opinion.

    Let's say you, or one of your kids, wants to go to college but
    cannot afford to do so. Your state does not offer free college
    tuition, but other states do. Moving to another state would solve
    that problem, although one would still have to pay room and board -
    which is what dormitories and cafeterias are for.

    To get around the out of state tuition problem, all one would
    have to do is become a resident of the state. Doing chores in
    exchange for a place to stay should do it.

    Which brings up an interesting question -

    How long does it take to become a resident of a state?

    Let's say you move to Louisiana (or Georgia). Then get a driver's
    license with your new address as your residence. Does that make you
    a resident of the state? Would that be enough to qualify for free
    college tuition?

    Kids have been doing that for years, in order to avoid having to
    pay exorbitant out of state college tuition costs. Staying in a dorm
    is much cheaper than renting an apartment. And a meal ticket to eat
    at the cafeteria is a lot cheaper than buying groceries.

    Come to to think of it, maybe we could find new homes for the
    homeless by oh never mind those university professors would not
    like that ...

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 15:32:04
    Both Louisiana and Georgia have free college tuition for students.

    NY has a free college program too, but if feels uncomfortable taking a favor from a cold-blooded murder like Andrew Cuomo. What will he ask in return?

    Let's say you move to Louisiana (or Georgia). Then get a driver's
    license with your new address as your residence. Does that make you
    a resident of the state? Would that be enough to qualify for free
    college tuition?

    In NY, if you qualify for the free tuition (It's called The Excelcior Scholarship,) then I wonder if you can qualify with a undocumented immigrant's drivers license? Because I know that we currently offer those. If that's the case, we're gonna turn those rapists and murderers into doctors and lawyers! Who can argue with that? :)

    Come to to think of it, maybe we could find new homes for the
    homeless by oh never mind those university professors would not

    Just go to any 5 star hotel in NYC. Deblasio is offering free rooms for anyone who can hold a homeless sign. Everything's free I guess. They do this in California too, but in Cali they also provide free drugs and alcohol, so NY's still got some catching up to do.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 20, 2020 05:12:47
    Hello Aaron,

    So "free college education" means that the "professor" who teaches
    "gender RL> studies" gets to keep her job and the tax payers have to pay
    for a snowflak RL> to get a worthless degree.

    That sounds familiar! But instead of leaving it up to states, like Trump
    has, Biden would rather mandate it for the entire USA and let the national debt pay the bill.

    Suppose you bought everything on credit.
    Until you had no more credit to buy anthing more.
    What happens is you keep paying your bill, but
    creditor gives you more credit so you can buy more
    stuff. Each time you get close to your limit
    your creditor gives you more credit. That way you
    can keep buying stuff for as long as you like.

    Multiply that by the number of credit cards you have.
    And then think about how much yearly income you are making.
    What happens when you are paying out more than you are taking in?

    That is what you call deficit spending.

    Which is not a bad thing, when done properly.

    Spend now, pay back later. Kind of like buying a car.
    Or a house. Few people can just walk in and pay in full
    for expensive stuff that takes most folks years or decades
    to pay for. Without credit, this country would not be the
    same as what it is.

    Free college tuition should be available for all. Nobody should
    be forced to put themselves in debt for decades in order to be able
    to become gainfully employed. Besides, what folks pay back in taxes
    more than whatever cost is provided by the state for that education.

    How much is a college education worth? Can someone earn
    a living by flipping hamburgers at some fast food joint?
    I don't think so. Making college tuition unaffordable is
    not the answer. Best thing to do is have free tuition for
    all. Private colleges and universities can charge all
    they want, as wealthy parents can easily afford the cost
    of sending their kids to school.

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 20, 2020 00:47:00
    On 08-19-20 15:11, Lee Lofaso <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Democrat Lies <=-

    Both Louisiana and Georgia have free college tuition for students.

    Let's say you, or one of your kids, wants to go to college but
    cannot afford to do so. Your state does not offer free college
    tuition, but other states do. Moving to another state would solve
    that problem, although one would still have to pay room and board -
    which is what dormitories and cafeterias are for.

    To get around the out of state tuition problem, all one would
    have to do is become a resident of the state. Doing chores in
    exchange for a place to stay should do it.

    Which brings up an interesting question -

    How long does it take to become a resident of a state?

    Many states put the threshold at one year. Plus, living in the state
    for the purposes of going to school does not count.

    I mostly grew up in Florida and graduated from high school there. At
    that time the state universities gave automatic admission to anyone who graduated from a Florida high school, plus had a tuition of $50 per
    year. Of course, that tuition is much higher now, almost $6,400 for in
    state and just over $28,000 for out of state. Although they had
    guarenteed admission, they did not guarentee that you would not flunk
    out before the end of the first semester -- and supposedly 2/3rds of
    them did just that. I have no idea what their policy is today.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)




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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:36:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    So "free college education" means that the "professor" who teaches "gender studies" gets to keep her job and the tax payers have to pay for a
    snowflak
    to get a worthless degree.

    That sounds familiar! But instead of leaving it up to states, like
    Trump has, Biden would rather mandate it for the entire USA and let the national debt pay the bill.

    Yup. Socialists always think that the State will do a better job of deciding. No matter that it's failed every time it's been tried - for exactly the same reason: the State is staffed by morons.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 20, 2020 09:28:12
    Free college tuition should be available for all. Nobody should

    I'm with you on that, sorta, but if you ever want it to happen, I encourage you to stop calling it "free college tuition." The word "free" makes it
    sounds reckless to conservatives. It doesn't have to be that way.

    I think gimpy Andrew Cuomo sorta did it right in NY. There are rules that could make the student have to pay the tuition back if they fail too many courses, or if they fail to register for a full-time schedule.

    Stuff like that should be included in a national version of "government subsidized college education."

    a living by flipping hamburgers at some fast food joint?

    I'm confident that some people DO earn a living flipping burgers. Their payroll tax shouldn't be funding people who want to be journalists. I guess it would be more justified if their payroll tax funded police academy students, or medical school students; let the burger flippers get some value out of their payroll tax. Let's not work ourselves to death just so Hunter Biden can become a marine biologist.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 20, 2020 23:45:05
    Hello Aaron,

    Both Louisiana and Georgia have free college tuition for students.

    NY has a free college program too, but if feels uncomfortable taking a favor
    from a cold-blooded murder like Andrew Cuomo. What will he ask in return?

    Do realize he's a goodfella. Kinda like John Goodman. Only better.

    Let's say you move to Louisiana (or Georgia). Then get a driver's >LL>license with your new address as your residence. Does that make you
    a resident of the state? Would that be enough to qualify for free >LL>college tuition?

    In NY, if you qualify for the free tuition (It's called The Excelcior
    Scholarship,) then I wonder if you can qualify with a undocumented immigrant's drivers license? Because I know that we currently offer those.
    If that's the case, we're gonna turn those rapists and murderers into doctors and lawyers! Who can argue with that? :)

    Certainly it would be best for undocumented immigrants to have
    a state identification card such as a drivers license. Just imagine
    all the paperwork that would be saved. Especially since many do not
    speak good English, if at all.

    Come to to think of it, maybe we could find new homes for the
    homeless by oh never mind those university professors would not

    Just go to any 5 star hotel in NYC. Deblasio is offering free rooms for
    anyone who can hold a homeless sign. Everything's free I guess. They do
    this in California too, but in Cali they also provide free drugs and alcohol, so NY's still got some catching up to do.

    The city of New Orleans opened the Superdome as a place for folks
    to be safe in during Hurricane Katrina. There wasn't much left to
    the inside after they got through with it. Free seats! Grab yours
    fast! Before they are all gone!

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, August 20, 2020 23:45:30
    Hello Dale,

    Both Louisiana and Georgia have free college tuition for students.

    Let's say you, or one of your kids, wants to go to college but
    cannot afford to do so. Your state does not offer free college
    tuition, but other states do. Moving to another state would solve
    that problem, although one would still have to pay room and board - >LL>which is what dormitories and cafeterias are for.

    To get around the out of state tuition problem, all one would
    have to do is become a resident of the state. Doing chores in
    exchange for a place to stay should do it.

    Which brings up an interesting question -

    How long does it take to become a resident of a state?

    Many states put the threshold at one year. Plus, living in the state
    for the purposes of going to school does not count.

    Each state has its own residency rules. And sometimes each conference
    a school is in. Living in the state is also defined in different ways.

    Tennessee has no rules concerning residency. Some states define
    residency as being more than 183 days. Other states it is one year.
    And at least one state at three years. Conferences also set residency
    rules for tuition purposes. Also individual schools might have their
    own specific rules.

    I mostly grew up in Florida and graduated from high school there. At
    that time the state universities gave automatic admission to anyone who >graduated from a Florida high school, plus had a tuition of $50 per
    year. Of course, that tuition is much higher now, almost $6,400 for in
    state and just over $28,000 for out of state. Although they had
    guarenteed admission, they did not guarentee that you would not flunk
    out before the end of the first semester -- and supposedly 2/3rds of
    them did just that. I have no idea what their policy is today.

    Generally, move to a state, have a place to live, get a driver's
    license, register to vote, get a library card, etc. After one year,
    having a way to verify how long one has been there, should be enough.
    Maybe. But that is for those who want to pay in-state tuition.

    How long does it take to become a resident of a state is even more
    chaotic. Some will tell you a resident of the state is one who has
    received a driver's license from that state. How long does it take
    for someone to get a driver's license in a state he/she has moved
    to? Certainly a lot less than a year. More likely just a few days.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 20, 2020 23:45:35
    Hello Aaron,

    Free college tuition should be available for all. Nobody should

    I'm with you on that, sorta, but if you ever want it to happen, I encourage
    you to stop calling it "free college tuition." The word "free" makes it sounds reckless to conservatives. It doesn't have to be that way.

    Everybody knows the best things in life are free. So might as
    well include education.

    I think gimpy Andrew Cuomo sorta did it right in NY. There are rules that
    could make the student have to pay the tuition back if they fail too many courses, or if they fail to register for a full-time schedule.

    Get real. We repay the cost of tuition many times over through taxes.
    It really is a good deal for states to provide free tuiion. Employers
    get the benefit of having a qualified workforce, and the state gets
    more revenue as more people are gainfully employed.

    Stuff like that should be included in a national version of "government
    subsidized college education."

    Bernie Sanders wants to go national. But states can do so now,
    as some already are. Maybe Bernie should set his sights on running
    for governor of Vermont, rather than president. Just think of the
    many wonders he could do, educating all those Vermonters with his
    own special program.

    a living by flipping hamburgers at some fast food joint?

    I'm confident that some people DO earn a living flipping burgers.

    Part time hours at minimum wage is not liveable. Even full time
    at minimum wage is not liveable.

    Their payroll tax shouldn't be funding people who want to be journalists.

    Would you rather have Chris Cuomo as governor rather than a tv host?

    I guess it would be more justified if their payroll tax funded police
    academy students, or medical school students;

    Students should be free to pursue the field of their choice.

    let the burger flippers get some value out of their payroll tax.

    Employers have an obligation to pay the payroll tax, as rollbacks
    would weaken social security and medicare. Nobody should be forced
    to work until they drop.

    Let's not work ourselves to death just so Hunter Biden can become a marine
    biologist.

    Hunter is a lawyer, and I am sure he would make a fine marine
    biologist if he were to get the proper education and training.
    He might even be able to get a position at LUMCON, a research
    facility on the coast of Louisiana.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 20, 2020 20:03:51
    Certainly it would be best for undocumented immigrants to have
    a state identification card such as a drivers license. Just imagine
    all the paperwork that would be saved. Especially since many do not
    speak good English, if at all.

    They shouldn't need drivers licenses. It's racist and inhumane to ask them for identification. In fact, it might even be illegal in NYC.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, August 20, 2020 20:14:07
    Everybody knows the best things in life are free. So might as
    well include education.

    What about freedom being free? How many people do we have to enslave to give the free education?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 21, 2020 18:36:52
    Hello Aaron,

    Certainly it would be best for undocumented immigrants to have
    a state identification card such as a drivers license. Just imagine
    all the paperwork that would be saved. Especially since many do not >LL>speak good English, if at all.

    They shouldn't need drivers licenses. It's racist and inhumane to ask them
    for identification. In fact, it might even be illegal in NYC.

    A state identification card cannot be racist or illegal, as it is
    the state that issues it.

    Let's say a cop pulls you off the road. Then asks you to show
    him your driver's license and proof of insurance. Do you tell him
    to f*ck off? Or do you comply with the officer's request?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 21, 2020 18:37:10
    Hello Aaron,

    Everybody knows the best things in life are free. So might as
    well include education.

    What about freedom being free? How many people do we have to enslave to give
    the free education?

    Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, August 21, 2020 20:17:24
    A state identification card cannot be racist or illegal, as it is
    the state that issues it.

    Sometimes I wonder if you're really a Republican, and if you're just poking fun at the Democrats?

    Let's say a cop pulls you off the road. Then asks you to show
    him your driver's license and proof of insurance. Do you tell him
    to f*ck off? Or do you comply with the officer's request?

    It's not pc to comply with an officer's request. Aren't we supposed to throw bottles at them or something? Burn their cars? Get bailed out by Joe Biden if we get caught?

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, August 28, 2020 20:52:00
    On 08-22-20, AARON THOMAS said to LEE LOFASO:

    When or where have I ever written that folks who cannot afford a state idenfication card should have to pay for one?


    If they can blow most of their welfare check on booze and drugs...they should be able to afford the few dollars for an ID to show a poll worker they are who they claim they are in order to vote!


    If they can go to a DMV to obtain and renew their drivers license they should be able to afford a voter's ID to vote!


    If they can afford the costs of fuel and upkeep for those vehicles they drive around, they should be able to afford the few dollars for a voter ID!


    With all the money they save by living in rent-subsidized housing, they should be able to afford a voter ID card!


    They can get to and from the dice game...or the corner saloon...or their favorite drug den....they should also be able to get to the office that issues voter ID cards!


    The buses run....taxis still operate....most all of them can get drivers licenses to show an ID to buy alcohol, or buy tobacco....the excuse `I can't afford one' goes out the window.


    They need a valid ID to buy liquir, a pack of cigarettes... to obtain a
    drivers license (birth certificate)...cash a check....open a bank account...


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Tim Richardson on Saturday, August 29, 2020 08:02:08
    If they can blow most of their welfare check on booze and drugs...they shou be able to afford the few dollars for an ID to show a poll worker they are they claim they are in order to vote!

    But my point is that if we didn't make them show ID to enter the USA, then why should we expect them to show ID for anything else? If it's a NY drivers license, then it says nothing about who they really are anyway.

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